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For those who use Luminox, question

Postby PA Prof » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:52 pm

I am considering getting some Luminox for my Firebolts. A question for those familiar with them--which ones will fit correctly? The Firebolts have flat backs instead of the half-moon nock that was typical on arrows for my old Bear bow.

Could use some guidance...thanks.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby j.krug » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:55 pm

I don't have the answer for you but if you go to their website they have a list of arrow shafts and which nock you'll need.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby one shot scott » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:32 pm

Even if you buy the corrcet size i will likely require a little bit of modification for it to fit "just right". Just a little bit of sanding to the luminok is what I have had to do in the past.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby gerald strine » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:58 pm

you want burnt coyote lumennoock EXCF3 this is a firebolt exclusive nock.
you will also want new bolts that have never had inserts installed before you can get both from Dan Miller 740 483 2312
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby xbowkidd » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:13 am

you could also try firenock's. you pay a little more for them upfront but you end up saving money because you can change the batteries (and because its impossible to kill them). just my 2 cents. http://www.firenock.com
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby Cossack » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:37 am

X 2 on the Firenocks. Best lighted nock out there. They come with spacer O rings to accommodate most arrows, I use both their moon and flat nocks in my various bows. Quality cost a bit more but in this case it's more than worth it.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby bstout » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:40 am

I've used the Burt Coyote Lumenok for two years now and I really like them for hunting. It allows me to see if and where I hit the deer. It also saves me a ton of time searching for my arrow in the brush after the shot. They do take some tact to install but they work great!

I tried the Firenock and it didn't work as well for me as the Lumenok, your mileage may vary.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby PA Prof » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:45 am

Thanks so much guys these are great replies. :)
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby j.krug » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:58 am

gerald strine wrote:you want burnt coyote lumennoock EXCF3 this is a firebolt exclusive nock.
you will also want new bolts that have never had inserts installed before you can get both from Dan Miller 740 483 2312


Why is it that you need new bolts? Is the glue residue an issue when installing the Lumenocks?
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby Horizontal Hunter » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:11 am

I have tried the Lumenok, Tracer, and the Firenock. The Lumenok like the Tracer are disposable once the battery runs out. The Tracer 's had the shortest battery life of all three. The wires that activate the Lumenok created dimples in the end of my GT Laser II's when shot and when I refletched I had to clean up the back of the arrow with the G5 ASD.

The Firenock is definitely the Cadillac of the three. It is more expensive but it is highly customizable and it is not a disposable unit when the battery goes dead. Assembly is a bit tricky and it is easy to short out the battery if you are not careful. Read the directions. Battery life on the Firenock is one season (You can buy an extended life battery from Firenock) but there is no way to test them without shooting them so if you can't shoot them at the house that might be an issue.

The lighted nocks really make it clear where your shot went, especially in low light.

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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby bstout » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:09 pm

The Lumenok is a battery along with an L.E.D. (light emitting diode) and that's it!

It's a very simple device which is why it's very reliable when properly installed. I've gotten two seasons out of mine but the L.E.D. is getting dimmer than a new one. You can test the brightness by shorting out the two wires on the Lumenok using a pair of pliers to turn the nock on & off.

The Firenock is far more sophisticated of a device and is easier to install but trickier to use in my opinion. I don't have the patience to fool with them from a user's standpoint of view. I want to be able to turn the nock off without waiting 6 seconds and slamming it onto a hard surface. The Lumenok can be turned on & off instantly (no waiting) and silently using your finger tips.

I also had a bad experience using the Firenock. My string skated around the nock and caused a partial dryfire. I've never had that happen with the larger diameter Lumenok which has a rough surface on the back. The Firenock rear surface is small, shiny and smooth.

I'm stating my personal experience here and nothing more.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby PA Prof » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:18 pm

I see that the Firenocks come in "C" and "F" models. The "C" model is listed as a semi-crescent shape that is supposed to be compatible with Firebolts. The F is flat like the stock nocks. Which would be the better one to use, or is it just preference? I am concerned by bstout's above post involving the dryfire.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby bstout » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:06 pm

PA Prof wrote: I am concerned by bstout's above post involving the dryfire.


Certain crossbow dealers do suggest using the half moon nocks when using Firenocks with an Excalibur crossbow. They know more about it than I do from what they see on a day to day basis. In my opinion, if your center serving is large enough in diameter there probably won't be an issue.

It's the procedure used to turn them off that bothered me the most. I don't like having to wait for a computerized nock. I prefer a mechanical device I can work myself silently.

The Lumenok has a basic on & off switch that consists of two wires that protrude out of the nock. When the nock gets pushed into the arrow by the string upon firing, the rear of the arrow shaft itself shorts out the two wires and the light comes on.

The Firenock is far more complex than this.
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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby Horizontal Hunter » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:14 pm

I have used the Firenock flat nocks without any problems. All three brands have worked very reliably for me. The method of turning off the Firenocks is indeed a little wierd and it feels wrong when you do it but it works fine.

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Re: For those who use Luminox, question

Postby bstout » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:37 pm

Horizontal Hunter wrote:The method of turning off the Firenocks is indeed a little wierd and it feels wrong when you do it but it works fine.


I'm fairly certain that a person can get used to the *different* style of turn off method of the Firenock in time.

I had been using the Lumenok for a year before I tried the Firenock so I was used to the Lumenok and being able to work it instantly.

The Firenocks are definitely easier to install than the Lumenoks but more hassle to use, in my opinion.
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