Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

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Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby Marion » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:15 pm

I put a brown vixen in the Layaway for $489 (because I bought rail upgrades)
I've paid on Half of it.. and now I'm seeing Axioms on sale @ Fleet Farm for $450 out the door... Should I convert the layaway into store credit for arrows, and just buy the Axiom?

I'm wanting more power for the money, and I believe I still could hand draw a 175# bow...

Or should I continue down this path.. Will a Vixen with an Ashby type arrow setup dispatch hogs?
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby TPM » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:56 pm

Is this a new Vixen? It's been a long time since Excal has made brown Vixens. Also, what are 'rail upgrades"?
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby Marion » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:13 pm

TPM wrote:Is this a new Vixen? It's been a long time since Excal has made brown Vixens. Also, what are 'rail upgrades"?


Nope.. Poop brown.. I bought the scope rail for it, as it simply had the weaver with open sights. I put in layaway on impulse, because I really wanted an excalibur (as my Jandao is getting old). But I should've done better..
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby TPM » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:08 pm

I'd go for the Axiom just because I think it's better value for your dollar. Clean bare bones brown Vixens (no scope or accessories) can be had on the used market for around $250-$275.
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby ComfyBear » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:49 pm

Just a bit of history.

The "DeerHIde Brown" Vixen was first introduced in 2003. It had the following specs:
    mass weight 6lbs
    overall length 37"
    power stroke 14"
    draw weight 150lbs
    velocity 285FPS

In 2006 the specs were:
    mass weight 6lbs
    overall length 36.5"
    power stroke 13.5"
    draw weight 150lbs
    velocity 285FPS (a "forward riser" was introduced)
The last year this model was produced was 2008.

In 2009 the Vixen II was introduced and came in Realtree Hardwood.
The specs were:
    mass weight 5.9lbs
    overall length 35.5"
    power stroke 13.5"
    draw weight 150lbs
    velocity at 285FPS

The Axiom was introduced in 2010.
It was sold as a "kit only", and included multiplex scope and mounting hardware, quiver, 4 Firebolt arrows complete with field points.

It's specs are as follows:
    Velocity 305FPS
    Draw Weight 175lbs
    Power Stroke 14.5
    Mass weight 6.0lbs
    Overall Length 37.5"
    Realtree Advantage Timber stock and limbs
    Gray anodized alumium rail/mainframe and riser

In 2012 the Axiom SMF (Black Composite rail, Black Auminum riser) was introduced. Other than the rail and riser, the specs were the same as above.

Marion, I hope that helps you make up your mind on which way to go.
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby Marion » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:39 pm

Where do y'all get bare bow axioms for $250.. If that's the case, That's the route I'm going! I'll take the layaway and load up on arrows. If the old vixen is 285 with a 350 grain arrow (252 with a 500gr) Then a Axiom should be able to fling a 500-grain arrow at 250-275.. That's all I need.
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby TPM » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:29 pm

You're not likely to find an Axiom that cheap. Re read my post, bare bones brown Vixen can often be found on the used market that cheap. The brown ones have been out of production since 2008. They sell cheap on the used market for various reasons, mostly because everyone is camo crazy and speed crazy. It's a shame as they are sweet bows. Don't get caught up on heavy arrows for lower poundage bows. Something in the 375-400 grain total weight will be more than adequate for hunting. If you're budget is under $500 look for an older used Exocet or something along those lines. $500 should get you a good bow with accessories (scope, rope cocker, quiver, arrows etc.).
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby Marion » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:39 pm

TPM wrote:You're not likely to find an Axiom that cheap. Re read my post, bare bones brown Vixen can often be found on the used market that cheap. The brown ones have been out of production since 2008. They sell cheap on the used market for various reasons, mostly because everyone is camo crazy and speed crazy. It's a shame as they are sweet bows. Don't get caught up on heavy arrows for lower poundage bows. Something in the 375-400 grain total weight will be more than adequate for hunting. If you're budget is under $500 look for an older used Exocet or something along those lines. $500 should get you a good bow with accessories (scope, rope cocker, quiver, arrows etc.).


Makes total sense.. I'm quite frustrated that I didn't research like I normally do.
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby longbow joe » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:02 pm

I recently BOUGHT MY SECOND CAMO VIXEN 2 VARIZONE PACKAGE for $520 from amazon i dont know your locatoin but there still are many new synthetic brand new axioms here on e bay and amazon
Micro 335 camo crossbones /matrix 330 workhorse nikon bolt /vixen ll / striker offspring with a micro stock crossbones/ matrix 355 with a micro stock crossbones/ metal ibex (adopted manco morto)/ trigger tec's on most / spitfires/easton2216s/zombies
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby Marion » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:37 pm

Makes sense.. I might just pay it off slowly. I picked up a couple dozen arrows and broadheads for my current bow.. So I'll just keep it until I can trade up. I've been pushing my chineese Jandao out to 65 yards with 6in grouping.. That's my max for now
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby Meat Hunter » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:40 pm

I have both a brown Vixen and a Axiom. As far as shooting and harvesting deer are concerned; for the life of me I cannot tell much difference a'tall.

After shooting them for more than 10 years, I have yet to have a single mechanical problem (other than wearing out a couple of strings).

I am of the opinion that which ever bow that you choose that your grandchildren will grow old shooting them.
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Re: Torn (Vixen VS Axiom)

Postby VixChix » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:31 pm

My old brown Vixen has been extremely durable and reliable. Many many miles on that xbow. I can shoot heavier/faster bows but my Vixen does it all. No regrets.
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