Is a xbow kill a P&Y score buck?

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:14 pm

I read online somewhere that P&Y only enters compund, recurve, and longbow taken deer? So what the heck do we score deer under thats taken with a crossbow?

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:18 pm

Use Boone & Crockett or American Crossbow Federations new record books. Pope & Young are in the anti-xbow camp.

http://www.boone-crockett.org/

http://www.horizontalbowhunter.com/news/news.asp?ID=89

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:31 am

Yep, like Digger said. P&Y are crossbow haters...

pphoenix · Post by **pphoenix** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:44 am

was looking at the ontario record books, and sure didn't like to see an archery and a crossbow category, aren't they the same

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:19 am

American Crossbow Federation big game register
http://www.horizontalbowhunter.com/news/news.asp?ID=108

bait pile willie · Post by **bait pile willie** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:32 am

note in the ont. book there is a separate category for each weapon and minimum requirments are different this is because the degree of difficulty of taking game with each varies with used.,it certainly wouldnt be fair to put crossbows in with vertical archery..does anybody know ifpope &young lumps together compounds and traditional?

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:07 am

bait pile willie wrote:note in the ont. book there is a separate category for each weapon and minimum requirments are different this is because the degree of difficulty of taking game with each varies with used.,it certainly wouldnt be fair to put crossbows in with vertical archery..does anybody know ifpope &young lumps together compounds and traditional?

bait, I believe they do... doesnt seem fair to lump old school longbows with new compounds either, but they do.

thanks for the info everyone on this

XbowMisiu · Post by **XbowMisiu** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:39 am

Foundation for Recognition of Ontario Wildlife (FROW)

http://www.frow-biggamerecords.com/

Accepts trophies taken with crossbows.

Woody Williams · Post by **Woody Williams** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:47 am

You can score your animals using the P & Y system or the B & C system or SCI or Buckamsters to get a relative score.

You just cant enter your animal in the P & Y book.

Many years ago you couldn't enter an animal taken with a compound at all. That had to be changed.

Then you could enter one that was taken with a 65%+ let off comound.

That changed too.

One day when there are more crossbowers than verticaa bowhtuers that will change again.

For right now who cares what the P & Y does?

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:42 pm

Woody Williams wrote:You can score your animals using the P & Y system or the B & C system or SCI or Buckamsters to get a relative score.

You just cant enter your animal in the P & Y book.

Many years ago you couldn't enter an animal taken with a compound at all. That had to be changed.

Then you could enter one that was taken with a 65%+ let off comound.

That changed too.

One day when there are more crossbowers than verticaa bowhtuers that will change again.

For right now who cares what the P & Y does?

I dont care, just was wondering why they didnt except xbow deer. Im sure like ya said, it will change in the next few years since lots of guys are switching.
Stout, im guessing you are only 17

LoneWolf · Post by **LoneWolf** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:46 pm

My buck from last year qualified for Pope & Young, as it was taken with a compound. But my other two bucks from the two previous years where taken with the crossbow. Therefore, didn't qualify for their book. But all three bucks made the FROW book and they will be in the 5th edition.

bstout,

That racoon hat of yours looks very real!...

LoneWolf · Post by **LoneWolf** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:47 pm

Yeah, they do get attached to you. I had one as well back in the early 80's, then we had a fire at our house and he was caught in the basement and ended up dying in the fire. I also had two dobermans and a siamese cat, but they got out ok.

BTW, Nice buck you arrowed yourself there!...

Congrats!

chris4570 · Post by **chris4570** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:39 pm

crazyfarmer wrote:
bait pile willie wrote:note in the ont. book there is a separate category for each weapon and minimum requirments are different this is because the degree of difficulty of taking game with each varies with used.,it certainly wouldnt be fair to put crossbows in with vertical archery..does anybody know ifpope &young lumps together compounds and traditional?
bait, I believe they do... doesnt seem fair to lump old school longbows with new compounds either, but they do.

I disagree with both. The degree of difficulty, ie. getting close, understanding animal behaviour, habits, habitat, etc. doesn't change with the tool you decide to use.

Fair? Unfair? We all picked the our bow of choice. We picked them for our own personal reasons. Vertical or horizontal they are all bows and should be treated as equals.