arrow weights

whateverworks · Post by **whateverworks** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:21 pm

hey there, was a member on here years back but can't remember my handle. Anyways, back again, new handle.,, my question is. i shoot xx75's 2219 with 100 gr. mech. broadheads. and want to try carbon arrows. called tech dept. at excalibur and was told their carbon arrow with a 100 gr. head is 360 gr. (just enough). i'm trying to figure out what the weight of my xx75 2219 with 100 grain broadhead attached is. P.S. i couldn't figure it out from the easton website. P.P.S the lady on the phone at Ex. was really helpful, was never on hold listening to elevator music, awesome.

exocet · Post by **exocet** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:49 pm

not sure, I am shooting the 360 gr package. I do know the 2219`s are much heavier. The next step up from the GT2`s like I shoot is the Easton Aluminum 2213-226 then the heavier even 2219. Keep in mind, the stocm GT2`s come with 3/5 inch vanes, what I shoot. If you get the same setup as the Excalibur GT2 carbons and the 100 gr head, you can get the GT2`s with Broass inserts in the front that add a little weight to the package. Many guys are using that setup here. Jack.

ComfyBear · Post by **ComfyBear** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:06 pm

A xx75 2219 with 4" plastic vanes and a 100gr broadhead weighs in the neighbourhood of 460gr.

whateverworks · Post by **whateverworks** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:17 pm

thanks comfy bear, i like the way my set up now works, i like the durability of the carbon but i think that's too much weight to shed for now. I am curious though how well the light arrows fly?

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:41 pm

deleted, wrong thread

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:55 am

bstout, how many FPS do you get with that out of your Vixen?

Edit: Nevermind, I looked on the arrow selection chart thing.

Beaver · Post by **Beaver** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:52 am

I have a 2005 Vixen. I shoot a 20 inch 2219 shaft, inserts in each end, 5 inch AAE vanes, 100 grain head. On a Redding scale they weigh an average of 455 grains and come out of my Vixen at 260 fps avereage. I have limb savers and cat whiskers for viberation dampening.

My favorite setup is the exact same arrow but with 5 inch feathers and a 100 grain, 4 blade Muzzy. This arrow weighs 438 grains, average, but comes out of the bow at 265 fps

Beaver · Post by **Beaver** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:30 pm

The FOC with the vanes is right at 8.75%.
The FOC with the feathers is right at 10.25&.

With field points or deployable blade heads, the vanes will shoot with the feathers out to 40 yards. With the 4 blade Muzzy 100 grain, the feathers are somewhat more accurate and with better arrow flight.

whateverworks · Post by **whateverworks** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:26 pm

thanks beaver, back to my original question, the carbons will be about 80 grains lighter than my 2219's. i wonder if many people shoot the carbons?? or are they too light to fly consistently?

Beaver · Post by **Beaver** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:36 pm

I am thinking that lots of folk here shoot carbons with no troubles. I also remember a post where someone was shooting carbons with feathers. That would be light and I believe they were talking of excellent 40 yard accuracy.

I would not think your carbons would be "TO LIGHT" to fly consistently. The FOC gives you a weight foreward bias to keep the front in the front. The fletch provides drag at the rear to keep the rear in the rear. Even if you have perfectly straight fletch, you have offsetting drag.

I know several compound 3D shooters, my boy included, that use carbon shafts of 350 grains, 24-26 inches, and get excellent accuracy at 60 yards.

My boy's compound hunting arrow, for this season, is a 26 inch carbon with a 100 grain Muzzy 4 blade and 4 inch shield cut feathers with true helical. They weigh just over 360 grains and come out of his compound at just over 280 fps with his 28 inch draw and string accessories. He can keep 4-5 inches at 40 yards with no difficulty.

When I shot traditional and then compounds, I always tried to get perfect arrow spine. I never bothered to check either FOC or weight. With a crossbow spine is not nearly so critical as my bow "WILL" shoot a 2212, 2213, 2215, 2216, and a 2219. When I got my Vixen, I had a surplus of 2219's, so I used them and I love them. They come out of the Vixen at 265 fps, have 68 ft lbs of KE, .518 SS of momentum, and will touch, with broadheads, at 30 yards. A 350 grain carbon at 295 fps would have the same 68 ft lbs of KE and .461 SS of momentum. For over 35 years I hunted successfully with a bow that produced an arrow speed of about 185 fps, 34 ft lbs of KE, and .372 SS of momentum.

Many feral hogs and a few whitetails

awshucks · Post by **awshucks** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:33 am

My GT LII's w/ 4" vanes and brass inserts weigh right at 431 gr w/ 100 gr tips, have FOC of about 20% and fly great even at 50 yds [yotes or rabbits]