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Johnny Suttles · Post by **Johnny Suttles** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:02 pm

thanks for all the advise from all of you
JOHNNY I'LL let you'all know what I find out.........

sumner4991 · Post by **sumner4991** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:18 pm

You are welcome . . .hope it helps. By the way, I think I will be trying a slightly heavier bolt. Maybe the Carbon Express Crossbolt Maxima Hunter . . .however, I do not believe the Gold Tip II's are too light. At least mine are flying very straight. All-n-all, the Gold Tips are a very good bolt. I feel very confident that the problem is elsewhere. Unfortunately, there are a lot of variables, which is what makes bow hunting so much fun.

Good luck and good shooting!

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:59 am

Hey, Johnny!

Welcome to the forum. You'll like it here. Good guys, good info, good times. Glad you're a part of us.

Those Gold Tip II's shouldn't be a problem. Sumner's right in saying that you should check to be sure everything's properly aligned. All in all, the crossbow and arrow combination is far less finicky and problematic than vertical bow setups. Be careful with your arrows and consistent in proper shooting technique, and you'll be fine.

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:15 am

Johnny,

Welcome aboard. I have bought a few dozen GT II's and have found on the average that 2 of 6 GT II's (new box) don't group with the rest of them. I've had them up to 3" off at 20 yards, and that gets magnified at greater distances. Follow Sumners advice and check each bolt. I did notice that when I did have problem bolt there was up to a 12 grain difference in them, most people said it didn't matter. Weed out your bad bolts, start by numbering them 1-6, put 6 dots up on the target and number 1-6. Shot each dot 3 times at 20 yards and you'll see if there is a bolt problem. Each bolt will probably shoot individual bullet holes, but they may not group collectively. Shoot your best grouping bolts at 20-50 yards, I think you'll see a big difference. I do the same when testing broadheads.

Rich

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:21 am

Rich ... a 12 grain variation?

Wow! That is absolutely unacceptable. Even wooden arrows are matched better than that ... a 5 grain variation or less is standard with wooden shafts from a quality supplier. Did you send them back or complain?

Johnny ... That's good advice about how to see which arrow is doing what.

sumner4991 · Post by **sumner4991** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:47 am

Grizz . . .that's not the first time I've heard that complaint. Well worth investing in a scale, I believe. Since I had the fortune of getting off-centered broadhead tips(on the surface everything looks great, nobody ask me if the broadheads were made correctly), I have learned a lot in a short period of time. Not by choice, I'm basically lazy by nature. Is the grain variance by inch or by bolt? If by inch, then 12 grains is perfectly acceptable per Gold Tip's variance specs. I am assuming it's by the inch, otherwise the variance would be different for a 20" bolt vs a 36" arrow . . .may be a bad assumption. I did notice on the Carbon Express website, they claim to weigh and group the bolts/arrows by weight. Therefore when you buy a set, they should be close in weight.

Not sure of this . . .I'm with Rich, check each bolt. Of course, the bolt weight will only make the POI higher or lower and at 20 yards or less, 12 grains doesn't really make a difference when you're shooting at 350FPS. Probably not a matter of life or death until you are shooting at longer ranges. The faster the bolt the tighter we need quality control and smaller variences. The little things show up bigger.

In my compound days, I'd just grab an arrow and throw on a broadhead . . .I'd be good. As long as I could be very accurate on estimating my yardage, the deer was dead. With the crossbow, a lot more attention needs to be paid to every component. Precission in the set-up is the key to successfully shooting tight groups especially at longer ranges.

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:14 am

Grizzly Adams,

I called Gold Tip and the only advice I was given was to rotate my bolt to a different vane to see if that helped. Never called back after that since I figured I was getting useless tech assist.

Rich

R.J. · Post by **R.J.** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:38 am

Welcome ... you have got and will get lots of good info here !

(THE BLUE STAR) · Post by **(THE BLUE STAR)** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:56 pm

Welcome. Frederick

saxman · Post by **saxman** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:14 pm

Welcome Johnny.I shoot the ExoMax also and love it.
Killed my first deer ever with it last October.
The people on this forum are the best.

A.W · Post by **A.W** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:21 pm

Welcome to the forum.

Sliver · Post by **Sliver** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:25 pm

Welcome aboard !

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:42 pm