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I consistently killed turkeys for 10 years and more with a 2 3/4" 12 ga. then my daughter won a 3" 12ga at 8 years old at a nwtf banquet and I started using that. Knowing what your gun/load will do is more important than having the biggest and heaviest thing around and flinch badly. my $0.02
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Very funny you two! LOL!
I am not a big guy by any means and seen to handle 10 ga in a SBS, pump and autoloader with a smile. I also shoot quite a few hundred 3 1/2" 12 ga a year. Everyone is different in their perception of recoil. My SBE is pretty light and is not a gas autoloader so it does some pushing on the other end and it does not bother me one bit. As Ductchunter said you shouldn't notice it in the field and I certainly don't. On one hand I can shoot over a hundred 3 1/2" shot shells in a day without complaint but hate every single slug shell I shoot. Everyone perceives recoil differently. Dont let anyone tell you what to shoot or not to shoot. The best thing to do is to try shooting at game with different shells. There is no line that separates a magnum from a non-magnum. There are heavy loads and light loads and everything in between. The word magnum is very much over used and is more of a marketing word rather than an actual shell.
When waterfowling everyone I hunt with uses ear plugs and one who does not is a fool! No one uses a ported barrel and if they did we wouldn't notice. Any properly ported barrel that I've shot or been around did not sound much louder. Of course the properly ported barrels that I have been around have been pro-ported.
The big advantage to a 3 1/2" shell is to manipulate the affect of a affect of a choke. On current longer/extended chokes a 3" shell puts out a very tight pattern compared to the 3 1/2" shell. The 3 1/2" shell will spread out more but have more pellets to compensate.
I am not a big guy by any means and seen to handle 10 ga in a SBS, pump and autoloader with a smile. I also shoot quite a few hundred 3 1/2" 12 ga a year. Everyone is different in their perception of recoil. My SBE is pretty light and is not a gas autoloader so it does some pushing on the other end and it does not bother me one bit. As Ductchunter said you shouldn't notice it in the field and I certainly don't. On one hand I can shoot over a hundred 3 1/2" shot shells in a day without complaint but hate every single slug shell I shoot. Everyone perceives recoil differently. Dont let anyone tell you what to shoot or not to shoot. The best thing to do is to try shooting at game with different shells. There is no line that separates a magnum from a non-magnum. There are heavy loads and light loads and everything in between. The word magnum is very much over used and is more of a marketing word rather than an actual shell.
When waterfowling everyone I hunt with uses ear plugs and one who does not is a fool! No one uses a ported barrel and if they did we wouldn't notice. Any properly ported barrel that I've shot or been around did not sound much louder. Of course the properly ported barrels that I have been around have been pro-ported.
The big advantage to a 3 1/2" shell is to manipulate the affect of a affect of a choke. On current longer/extended chokes a 3" shell puts out a very tight pattern compared to the 3 1/2" shell. The 3 1/2" shell will spread out more but have more pellets to compensate.
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I agree, try a few different loads to see what you're comfortable with but the original question was how to reduce painful recoil and often the best way to do that is "lighten the load". My point was that people often suffer unnecessary pain to there shoulder and wallet from being over gunned.Dont let anyone tell you what to shoot or not to shoot. The best thing to do is to try shooting at game with different shells.
You're right, manufacturers seem to have lost the true meaning of "magnum" but traditionally there is a line. Anything over 7/8oz. in a 20 gauge and anything over 1oz. in a 12ga..There is no line that separates a magnum from a non-magnum. There are heavy loads and light loads and everything in between. The word magnum is very much over used and is more of a marketing word rather than an actual shell.
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The best way to reduce the 'felt recoil' is to put on a Sorbathane/Kickeeze or Limbsaver recoil pad (yes these two make a big difference) and to add weight to the shot gun. I have known high volume shooters to tape on steel bars to the barrel or use 'stick-on' wheel weights. The stock is another place to add recoil reduction. My favorite is silicone and large shot put into the cavity of a synthetic stock. Wooden stocks can be bored out to add dead weight or a recoil reducer (just make sure the weight is removable).
"Recoil reduction" is a misnomer. The laws of physics can not be changed so the ft/lbs of recoil generated by a shell cannot be changed. That impulse generated by the shell can appear to change by extending the time line that it starts and finishes. Adding weight does all that as do recoil pads. A gun without a recoil pad pushes your shoulder just as much as one with a 2" thick recoil pad the difference being that the recoil pad spreads that impulse over a longer period of time.
Use the heaviest, baddest loads you can manage or want to manage after taking steps to make your gun more comfortable to shoot.
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"Recoil reduction" is a misnomer. The laws of physics can not be changed so the ft/lbs of recoil generated by a shell cannot be changed. That impulse generated by the shell can appear to change by extending the time line that it starts and finishes. Adding weight does all that as do recoil pads. A gun without a recoil pad pushes your shoulder just as much as one with a 2" thick recoil pad the difference being that the recoil pad spreads that impulse over a longer period of time.
Use the heaviest, baddest loads you can manage or want to manage after taking steps to make your gun more comfortable to shoot.
If you want to shoot my Pro-Ported 1100 give me a shout.
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The first time that I fired my Winchester SX3, I knew that I had made the right choice. It was ejecting light dove loads without missing a beat. Things were different when I pulled the trigger on my first 3 1/2" turkey load 
. I had no idea that a shotgun was capable of kicking that hard and as TPM said, I had made up my mind that I was going back to 3" shells next year. When I pulled the trigger on the first turkey with that gun I never felt it, not one bit. The same with the turkey I killed yesterday, never felt the recoil but I do plan on putting some of my old 3" through it to see what kind of pattern I get out of her. Now, with recoil being removed from the equation, it's simply a matter of what shell / choke combination that shoots the best and that's what I'll shoot 
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. I had no idea that a shotgun was capable of kicking that hard and as TPM said, I had made up my mind that I was going back to 3" shells next year. When I pulled the trigger on the first turkey with that gun I never felt it, not one bit. The same with the turkey I killed yesterday, never felt the recoil but I do plan on putting some of my old 3" through it to see what kind of pattern I get out of her. Now, with recoil being removed from the equation, it's simply a matter of what shell / choke combination that shoots the best and that's what I'll shoot .God Bless !!!!!!!!!
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I have shot the 3.5 magnums thru a number of different shotguns . ( friends that wanted to see how well I stood up to the recoil . ( Those shells really pound you especially when shooting off a bench patterning a load )
All I can say is that 3.5 inch magnums KILL on BOTH ENDS !!
As already stated ,I'm not so sure a 3.5 inch round is really needed . A properly placed shot with with a shell ( 2 3/4 or 3 inch ) that patterns well should flatten a bird at 30 or 40 yards quite well .
All I can say is that 3.5 inch magnums KILL on BOTH ENDS !!
As already stated ,I'm not so sure a 3.5 inch round is really needed . A properly placed shot with with a shell ( 2 3/4 or 3 inch ) that patterns well should flatten a bird at 30 or 40 yards quite well .
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Or just talk your buddy in to patterning it for you, that helps on the felt recoil too.Boo wrote:The best way to reduce the 'felt recoil' is to put on a Sorbathane/Kickeeze or Limbsaver recoil pad..(snip)
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LOL, that was with 3" slugs, Frank got caught up and I kept feeding the gun! Man, after 6 shots it was hurting me watching his body get shoved back! Hehehehe!Pydpiper wrote:Or just talk your buddy in to patterning it for you, that helps on the felt recoil too.Boo wrote:The best way to reduce the 'felt recoil' is to put on a Sorbathane/Kickeeze or Limbsaver recoil pad..(snip)
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