meat buck ?

truckintravis · Post by **truckintravis** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:52 am

hear the term "meat buck" alot and wonder instead of shooting that small of a buck, why not shoot a doe and let those smaller deer grow and mature. not tryin to offend anyone just my 2 cents

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:06 am

sometimes they get shot because they came by 1st. alot of ppl are meat hunters like me & with the few deer i get to even see if i pass on one we may go meatless fer a month or 2. be nothing but taters n rice or veg. soup or bean chili. not offended here

sumner4991 · Post by **sumner4991** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:10 am

It's just a matter of goals and priority. If you hunt to put food on the table, then a smaller buck is much better eating than a larger buck. In some areas there are not as many deer as in other areas. So, the option of taking a doe may not be available.

Anyway, there are a lot of great reasons to shoot the small buck. However, if you are a big rack hunter, then none of those reasons are good ones.

As long as the motivation keeps hunters in the woods, then I'm a supporter. Otherwise, hunting lands and traditions go into the trash.

Keep on hunting!

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:10 am

bstout wrote:The best archery hunters I know are all meat hunters.

Why, thanks for saying so, Bob.

I'm flattered!

pdislow · Post by **pdislow** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:18 am

those little young ones are easier to handle single handedly. tender ,tasty, and a lot easier to skin too. can't eat the headgear anyway.

the elf · Post by **the elf** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:21 am

In my area of Ontario, we have to apply for an ANTLERLESS permit, and if
not successful you must only shoot horns 3 inches or longer. In my area if
you are a horn hunter you may have very few chances and may only get tag soup for your efforts.Also in my area the government in their great
wisdom of handing out many multiple permits for years now have basically shut the tap off.This year I only saw does in the early archery season---but I was lucky enough to get a 4 point with my .308----it may have been the only horned deer I would get to see---and I am a meat
hunter anyway!-------------Alonzo---the elf.

Mike P · Post by **Mike P** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:29 am

bstout wrote:That's not to say they don't enjoy dropping a deer with a huge rack...they're just not obsessed with the idea.

Those guys that are obsessed with antlers just turn my stomach! I have been holding my tongue on this issue but the developments over the past three days here at the forum just wanna make ya puke. The nerve of these individuals plastering picture after picture of big bucks, why I tell ya, I have had it!

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:34 am

The perfect meat buck looks like this -

Can be tagged on an antlerless permit, easy to field dress & drag out, and some tender & tasty meat!
Been reluctant to post a pic of it because of the blood and the trend to be politically correct and make dead deer pics look like the critter is just peacefully asleep, but decided to go ahead. You can see the high entry wound (shot from a tree stand) and the massive loss of blood he suffered. This was the exact position/location he died in! He died very quickly, having traveled only about 45 yards. Looked to me like he stopped, collapsed, and that was the end.

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:55 am

Here's a little fawn buck I killed last year ... intentionally.

He never saw the freezer. I butchered him, started eating on him that night, and he was gone in 10 days.

Does that bother me? Not a bit!

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:57 am

Bob,
I didn't even get the meat in the freezer before my wife grabbed a package of backstraps and headed for the spam.

She saw the deer before I took it to the processor and was well aware of how good it would be to eat.
It did make a good meal, but it sure disappeared quickly!

Mike P · Post by **Mike P** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:57 am

I think we may be overreacting a mite to this politically correct nonsense wabi. Let's face it. The blood is all part of it. Acting like morticians (no offense undertaker) and cleaning and posing our harvested deer just seems so hypocritical to me anymore.

I know we say the anti's use the pictures to their advantage but I really question just how much fuel we give them with a picture of a deer with some blood versus one with a prepared corpse posed with a weapon.

If you remember the story I posted with all the pictures of the gray face buck, I included several pictures of a very large and graphic blood trail. It was part of the deal. I didn't gas him. I didn't use a tranquilizer dart. I smoked him with a razor sharp broadhead. And he bled.

I don't know guys. I am struggling with this issue.

Maybe I will change my mind when I get my hands on my new camera.

Anyway, back on subject: Meat Buck.....Tasty Venison or first two words in a Pornographic Movie Title.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:25 pm

Grizzly Adam wrote:
bstout wrote:The best archery hunters I know are all meat hunters.
Why, thanks for saying so, Bob.

I'm flattered!

Jimminy Christmas...no humility there..and besides he was talking about me Adam..

....and sorry your flattered is that like a gas problem or something....lmao..I love pickin on you grizz..Ive seen some real ugly scary pictures of you and that combined with your character (jking) which is questionable to say the least.. I think we may be twins...

Oh sorry to go of topic there...but yes meat hunters I did alot of that in my younger days till I got married OOPPPs did it again..

I ment to say that around these parts you wait on a big boy you may never kill a buck..to many poverty striken folks ( some just trash that dont care) that kill deer year around just to eat. I cant say i blame them if your starvin you do what you got to. If I was manageing a place I would be more selective. Down on the river bottom where I hunt racks I do pass on the young fellers. last year saw twin 8 pointers that if they made it will be monsters this year and ifn i get a poke at them they are in trouble..early in the season I love to pop doe to eat. Its personel. I have had so many doe bust me and blow at me that the score will never be settled there.LMAO. I enjoy with a certain passion downing a mature doe for sure. Some are more educated than most bucks and are very hard to kill.

maple · Post by **maple** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:01 pm

Why would you shoot a buck if you wern't going to eat him?

Don't tell me there are people out there who shoot something with big antlers and then let the meat go to waste!!! That would be a crying shame.

I'll take a 2 1/2 year old pre-rut buck over a rutted out bruiser anyday. I've eaten them before and do not care for the results.

They're all "meat bucks" anyhow.

Maple

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:15 pm

planter wrote:I helped a bud cut up a toothless old buck a couple of nights ago. The loins were as tought as shoe leather and I don' think I've ever had tough loins before that. That whole deer went to visit the sausage lady!!

I don't like mature bucks for eating.

No way.

Not that I won't kill one ... but I think of them as "donation deer"!

Dumbazz · Post by **Dumbazz** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:44 pm

In many parts of southern ontario, the buck to doe ratio is so spread, that more does need to be taken.

For instance, I had 16 deer in front of me tonight. 15 were does and fawns and one was a young 8 pt. Now I know there are a few more bucks around, but still not anywhere near 1:1 or 1:2 even.

And when it seems the rut starts around here, a ton of small bucks get shot.

This year I have had pics of one mature buck only. Atleast what I would consider a mature buck. 3.5-4.5 years plus.

Personally I would much rather shoot a doe then a small buck with the hopes that some day that small buck will be a big guy.

Pretty tough to do though when you are surrounded by the spray and prayers, and one week hunters. "If its brown, its down".

To each their own though.