When I make an arrow I count on it only being used once, I hope for more but I don't count on it.
My last carbon arrow fragmented in the deer, I could live with bent or broken, but pulling little chunks of carbon out of meat got me to thinking that there has to be another option. I have had them break before, it is usually a clean break, this time was different, besides these large chunks there were several more smaller ones that were pitched out during the processing.
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WMU 91
Boo string
I shoot aluminum because of their tighter tolerance for straightness .
XX78 shaft TIR +or - .001
Fatboy shaft TIR +or- .003
As it has been stated before I only count on that arrow for one kill anything after that is a bonus .
I did not vote as I use both carbon and aluminum . for Aluminum it is 2117 and 2216's for carbon shaft it is the Beman ThunderBolt . Aluminum crossbow bolts are fairly inexpensive and are easy to change out inserts . carbon is very durable but inserts are near impossible to change .
Carbon for me as well. Good all around speed and kinetic energy. If I were to go hunting for moose or something, I may switch to a slightly heaveier aluminun, just to get the ft/lbs up.
Went from cabon to aluminum.
I like 2219, tried 2216 this year and like then just as well.
Once it goes through a deer I will use it for target only.
When I make up a dozen and have nothing else I will keep four that get shoot once before hunting season just to make sure of no faults. Keep the rest for
3-D. Which don't bend easy if you pull them out correctly.
Farmer wrote:I did not vote as I use both carbon and aluminum . for Aluminum it is 2117 and 2216's for carbon shaft it is the Beman ThunderBolt . Aluminum crossbow bolts are fairly inexpensive and are easy to change out inserts . carbon is very durable but inserts are near impossible to change .
Pydpiper wrote:When I make an arrow I count on it only being used once, I hope for more but I don't count on it.
My last carbon arrow fragmented in the deer, I could live with bent or broken, but pulling little chunks of carbon out of meat got me to thinking that there has to be another option. I have had them break before, it is usually a clean break, this time was different, besides these large chunks there were several more smaller ones that were pitched out during the processing.
David . . .did you hit bone? Or do you believe the arrow was stressed before the shot?
I use carbon mainly because I started with carbon and I just didn't see a need to switch. I have a tub of old arrows I use for target practice and a small supply of new arrows for hunting. I have never had one explode like that while hunting.
I used alm. arrows in my compound days. The only draw back I had with them is bending. You can accidently sit on your quiver and bend them all(can you believe that?). Very stressful in the field with that happens.
I'd rather wear out than rust out.
Perception trumps intention.
Farmer wrote:I did not vote as I use both carbon and aluminum . for Aluminum it is 2117 and 2216's for carbon shaft it is the Beman ThunderBolt . Aluminum crossbow bolts are fairly inexpensive and are easy to change out inserts . carbon is very durable but inserts are near impossible to change .
What Farmer said.
Kelley
Kelly, those Thunderbolts are very tough especially compared to Gold Tips! They were made from C2 material. I have some Victory shafts on order as well as some Carbon Express Aramid KVs on order. I also have been shooting the Maxima Hunters. Too bad I couldn't test them on a deer last season
I'll let you know what I think. I'll be torture testing them all.
Pydpiper wrote:When I make an arrow I count on it only being used once, I hope for more but I don't count on it.
My last carbon arrow fragmented in the deer, I could live with bent or broken, but pulling little chunks of carbon out of meat got me to thinking that there has to be another option. I have had them break before, it is usually a clean break, this time was different, besides these large chunks there were several more smaller ones that were pitched out during the processing.
David . . .did you hit bone? Or do you believe the arrow was stressed before the shot?
I use carbon mainly because I started with carbon and I just didn't see a need to switch. I have a tub of old arrows I use for target practice and a small supply of new arrows for hunting. I have never had one explode like that while hunting.
I used alm. arrows in my compound days. The only draw back I had with them is bending. You can accidently sit on your quiver and bend them all(can you believe that?). Very stressful in the field with that happens.
A combination of a few things happened to that arrow Scott, nothing out of the ordinary though, just hunting stuff. I don't want to think I have to handle my arrows like they are glass, but that seems to be how they responded.
If you are not willing to learn, nobody can help you, if you are willing, nobody can stop you.
A bowhunter with a passion for shooting firearms.
WMU 91
Boo string
I use aluminum, allways have, 2219, my hunting buddy uses carbon and has a few problems from time to time that I dont have! I just spin test when i am gearing up for a hunt, I used to use 2117 but tried the 2219 and found them a little more acurate at 30 + meters probably due to there more weight.
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Although my Excalibur came with carbon arrows I quickly converted back to aluminum. I have used aluminum arrows since my regular bow days. I make my own arrows from raw shafts and I feel aluminum is easier to work with. To me I would prefer to be able to see any defects in an arrow. If it is bent it is bad. Cracks may or may not be able to be seen in carbon shafts. During a hunting situation I consider a released bolt lost anyway, so what is the difference if it is bent? Broadheads are the same too. That is why I continue to use the Wasp broadheads that came with my xbow. I get 6 broadheads to the competition's 3 for the same price.
The last reason I stick with aluminum is because I hunt a lot of field edges. I have recovered several released bolts under the field grass by the use of a metal detector. Try that with carbon! I have. Doesn't work nearly as well if at all! I get consistant and tight groups with 2216 shafts and 100gr Wasp SSTs. Those Wasps are darn near indestructable.
Farmer wrote:I did not vote as I use both carbon and aluminum . for Aluminum it is 2117 and 2216's for carbon shaft it is the Beman ThunderBolt . Aluminum crossbow bolts are fairly inexpensive and are easy to change out inserts . carbon is very durable but inserts are near impossible to change .
What Farmer said.
Kelley
Kelly, those Thunderbolts are very tough especially compared to Gold Tips! They were made from C2 material. I have some Victory shafts on order as well as some Carbon Express Aramid KVs on order. I also have been shooting the Maxima Hunters. Too bad I couldn't test them on a deer last season
I'll let you know what I think. I'll be torture testing them all.
I shoot aluminum because of their tighter tolerance for straightness . 
