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New Excel string question

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Hey everyone, i'm pretty new to crossbows or any type of bow for that matter, anyways I bought my first crossbow an Excalibur Vortex, well everything was fine until I made a big boo boo by mistakenly hitting the sting with a broadhead, it cut a few strands quick, so I bought a new excel string. I put it on, but it does not fall in between the markers on the barrel? Am I supposed to twist the string at all before installing? I shot it a few times but its still not settled in between the markers, it rides on the outside of the very back line. Thanks for your help!
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Your string is made out of Dacron. Dacron exhibits more creep than any other string material so it will be a 1/4" of so higher than the highest brace height mark when first installed.
You can just start shooting or you can put the string on a stretching rack for a day or you can do the Miller hunch. :mrgreen:
After the above you will be well below the highest brace height mark.
No worries, with a small amount of time your string will sit where it belongs. Just be sure you put at least 4 twists in it so the serving does not come loose.
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Thankyou, gonna take it off and give it a couple twist then!
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stringdatbow, if it is short of reaching the line, then putting more twist will make it shorter. leave it on the bow a few days which should stretch it some, shoot it 25-30 times, see if that gets it between the lines. if that doesen't work and if you have enough twist in string undo a couple of twist to lenghten it. a pic might help
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fredbeer wrote:stringdatbow, if it is short of reaching the line, then putting more twist will make it shorter. leave it on the bow a few days which should stretch it some, shoot it 25-30 times, see if that gets it between the lines. if that doesen't work and if you have enough twist in string undo a couple of twist to lenghten it. a pic might help

This is what I have so far, no twist whatsoever, the string is right on top of line kind of hard to see the lines in pic.

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I am a man of little patience lol so I made a Boo stretcher for my new strings, works very well for pre-stretching strings.
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Boo wrote:Your string is made out of Dacron. Dacron exhibits more creep than any other string material so it will be a 1/4" of so higher than the highest brace height mark when first installed.
You can just start shooting or you can put the string on a stretching rack for a day or you can do the Miller hunch. :mrgreen:
After the above you will be well below the highest brace height mark.
No worries, with a small amount of time your string will sit where it belongs. Just be sure you put at least 4 twists in it so the serving does not come loose.
Boo is the string man so he knows what he's talking about. I have also heard people speed the process up by leaving the xbow cocked overnight and then shoot it the next day and the strings starts to settle in. I think it took me about 3 days of shooting before mine settled in.
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Stringdatbow wrote:
This is what I have so far, no twist whatsoever, the string is right on top of line kind of hard to see the lines in pic.

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FWIW, I see a little twist in the string and no a high brace height will not harm the bow or the string.
Just leave the string on the bow and you will soon have it stretch in.
Your final brace height should be maintained just off the bumpers or the force of the string will split the rubber.
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Thankyou all for the help. Should I wait until the string is settled in before sighting the bow in or will it not effect it much?
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Sight that sucker in and enjoy shooting. You are going to get a lot of string stretch so watch the brace height and do not shoot if the string is touching the rubber pads. I did once and it split the pad.

I would advise cocking the bow and letting it sit a night or two. Really helps break it in a lot faster.
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robertyb wrote:Sight that sucker in and enjoy shooting. You are going to get a lot of string stretch so watch the brace height and do not shoot if the string is touching the rubber pads. I did once and it split the pad.

I would advise cocking the bow and letting it sit a night or two. Really helps break it in a lot faster.

Lots of good help here, I got the bow cocked and hanging up on saftey, will leave it like that for a couple days, but good to hear I dont have to wait for it to settle in before sightiing it in. It was all sighted in before I cut the original string, but I imagine its probably needs to be zeroed again with a new string, maybe not by much though. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Take a look at the accessories link on this site and click on strings. You will get the answer about dacron and excel strings. The excel string can only be used on mag tip limbs and not the older carved tip limbs, which can only use a dacron string. I believe the excel string is refering to the Brownel excel string material which is not dacron and is a bear to stretch.
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GGC wrote:Take a look at the accessories link on this site and click on strings. You will get the answer about dacron and excel strings. The excel string can only be used on mag tip limbs and not the older carved tip limbs, which can only use a dacron string. I believe the excel string is refering to the Brownel excel string material which is not dacron and is a bear to stretch.
Xcel is a string material sold by Brownell Archery and cannot be only be used on Mag Tipped Excaliburs.
Excel is the name of the string sold by Excalibur. That string is made by Danny Miller and is comprised of Brownell's Dacron and can be used on either Mag Tipped bows or carved tipped bows.
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Double check what Excal says about their excel string and standard string.
There is a difference. Standard string is made with dacron and is primarily for the older bows, while the excel string is limited to mag tip limbs.
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GGC wrote:Double check what Excal says about their excel string and standard string.
There is a difference. Standard string is made with dacron and is primarily for the older bows, while the excel string is limited to mag tip limbs.
They are both made from Dacron. The Excel string is shorter.
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