Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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awshucks wrote:If your limb bolts were loose, it would result in a lower bheight.

The problem is, put frankly, there's no explanation for what you perceive to be happening w/ your xbow.

Once again, take the S5's off, get a new string, start over and report back.

I'm personally, very sorry you are having problems.........

Dan,
I respectfully disagree.
I believe if the limb bolts are loose (or the limbs are weakening) the limb tips would move toward the trigger. If the limb tips move the string would follow.
They couldn't move far before the string would be loose, but they could move some.


Joshua,
Have you noticed the string having less tension than normal when the bow isn't cocked?
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Joshua,
hang in there man ,,we all understand your frustration but youll get it fixed..
i have never delt with a better company and they WILL get you fixed,,
my suggestion is dont mess around with emails ..Call Miller first thing in the morn and youll have have and answer or he tell you to send it to him..
either way ..problem solved..
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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awshucks wrote:The reason Bill T answered you the way he did was both locations are ok to shoot your bow. Minimal diff's in poi.

Wabi posted a pic and asked 'A' or 'B'. I'm assuming you meant what you posted and it's 'A'.

I've been on here daily since 05 and this is a 1st for me. Your limbs have not and will not get weaker. If they had, you would be experiencing a lower b-height.

A faulty string would offer the same direction of movement which would be toward the stirrup, not the trigger.

Put as politely as I can, something is wrong. It's physically impossible to be in the xbow, that leaves pilot error, which is why I suggested you get another string and start over.

You can go either route here, try and solve your problem or bash Excal. The former will work better for you than the latter.
a quick forum search shows that the majority here unstring their excal during the off season. if the limbs will not weaken and a string can only stretch so much, why do so many people do this?

IMO...i saw zero bashing here and would be equally disappointed with the response he got from excalibur. when holding something near your face with as much energy as a crossbow you want to take every precaution to prevent injury as one incident could leave you blind or dead. imagine the headaches and bad publicity that would arise should this bow cause serious injury or death AFTER excalibur told the owner it's safe to shoot? it's because of this uncertainty that i believe the first thing excalibur should tell people is to take their bow to a dealer for inspection if any problems arise.

the fact that this is an extremely rare situation that doesn't really make sense suggests that something is definitely wrong and needs to be addressed.

while excalibur has great service and great products, nobody is perfect and nobody is immune to criticism. :wink:
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I read the OP that his string was still in between the two bheight lines, i.e. safe to shoot.

Let's see what happens..........
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Not trying to start a pi$$ing match, but just finished a simple experiment
Took my Phoenix and measured the brace height -
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The backed each limb bolt OUT 1 full turn and measured again -
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A picture is worth a thousand words. :wink:

BTW - Didn't do this just to prove a point. I was going to remove the limbs to send back to Danny for replacement anyway. (splinter popped up last fall and Danny said he would replace them for me.
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Thanks for straightening me out, Mike. I hope the OP gets back on here w/ a status report..........
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Glad this discussion came up.
At least it provided me with enough incentive to take those limbs off to send to Danny. :lol: :lol:
Called him to make sure he had a set on hand (he does) and he did tell me he was getting ready to go to a trade show and wouldn't be back until next Thursday.
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Well...I spoke with Danny Miller and apprised him of my findings. He advised, "just shoot it and call me when there is a real problem."

Unreal...

I guess when I have the opportunity, I will cock the bow and check the limbs and then take off the string and check the limb bolts. Nothing else to do.

Thanks ya'll for your responses, engouragements, and technical advise. Oh... and thanks awshucks for your politeness.
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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Joshua 24:15 wrote:Well...I spoke with Danny Miller and apprised him of my findings. He advised, "just shoot it and call me when there is a real problem."

Unreal...

I guess when I have the opportunity, I will cock the bow and check the limbs and then take off the string and check the limb bolts. Nothing else to do.

Thanks ya'll for your responses, engouragements, and technical advise. Oh... and thanks awshucks for your politeness.
sounds like your in good shape man..if Miller says shoot it then shoot it..
and hey if it blows all to pieces(very unlikely) you have talked with him and it will be taken care of....please keep us posted ..i am very curious at this point and want to know which way that string is going now..
also i looked up Joshua 24:15.."As for me and my house,we will serve the Lord"

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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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I do understand your frustration. I have walked down that road with my xbow. If
that bow explodes in your face and blinds you there is no one that can fix that.
I feel the attitudes you have received are very unfair and not a very good business practice. So who do you call when your blinded Bill or Dan ?
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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gtonini wrote: If that bow explodes in your face and blinds you there is no one that can fix that.
I feel the attitudes you have received are very unfair and not a very good business practice. So who do you call when your blinded Bill or Dan ?
Talk about attitude and an unfair post!

The OP did not mention any limb damage so why do you assume there will be a problem???
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Joshua 24:15 wrote: I guess when I have the opportunity, I will cock the bow and check the limbs and then take off the string and check the limb bolts. Nothing else to do.
This should have been done in the first place.
If you can't check it yourself, perhaps you could have your dealer have a look at your bow.
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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gtonini wrote: If
that bow explodes in your face and blinds you there is no one that can fix that.
I never heard of an Excalibur exploding.
Anybody ever have one explode????
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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I don't feel my post was unfair or unjust . The gentlemen made two phone calls evidently he was concerned . Wouldn't it have been better business sense to tell him send it in and we will look at it for you. I had problems of my own with the gentleman in Ohio . I finally shipped my bow back to Excalibur to have my issue fixed. Due to shoddy work that was done in Ohio . Then excuse my use of the word explode if you have the bow up to your face and the limb breaks you will swear there was a explosion .
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Re: Weak limbs or limbs breaking in?

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I had a limb go on me while cocked and locked on stand with a broadhead in place. I was not injured but came pretty close to having to change underwear.
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I had a limb splinter on my Excal Vortex too. I broke off the splinter and am still shooting it. Probably have a 100 or more shots on it since the limb splintered.
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I really don't think his Excal is going to explode in his face. :shock:

(But if it does I would call Dan first.) :lol:
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