R.E.D.S Modification

[FNARSCOT]

I have seen a reference to the modification of the R.E.D.S. Search of the site has been fruitless. Anybody have a step by step and a brace height after mod. that works best? If this post already exists please direct me to it. Thanks

[cdn.redneck]

http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/phpBB2 ... 64#p476033

they were talking about the R.E.D.S and baby bumper in that tread.
if link doesn't work, scroll down until you see "baby bumper or R.E.D.S" tread

[Boo]

There's not much to it.
Chuck the REDS in a drill and put it to a grinder. The drill will help keep things even.
Grind off 1/3rd to 1/2 of the tip of the ball off. Break the new edge with a file so there's no sharp edges created.
Set the braceheight to where the string is about 2 string widths away from the rubber bumpers or about 1/4" gap.

[FNARSCOT]

Got it Thanks

[Boo]

This one's not done yet but you'll see what the aim is.

[FNARSCOT]

I finished mine 5 min. ago. Ball measured .634 trimmed to.410. Over all length of pc. from where it contacts bow to top of ball is exact for both pieces .Brace height is set as per recommended(2 strings ) The only "noise" I hear is the string release. I prefer to stay with a endless string for now.I think. I am new to crossbows. My son shoots with me.(He is 9 and out shoots me regularly) I have read that a Flemmish string v.s. Excalibur string on the 380 is close as far as speed . We shoot a lot so I guess my question is will the Flemmish string with cat whiskers last as long as a stock string and do they hold adjustment as well. I know there is never a "free lunch" in the tuning world but what are the pros v.s. cons for my application?
Thanks Scot

[Boo]

If you buy a Flemish string from Danny Miller you'll pick up a couple of ft/sec.
The endless loop string will potentially be a shorter lived string because the serving where it closes the loop may back a way causing your loop to enlarge. But it's cheaper than the Flemish string which is easier on your bow as well as being less noisy.
If you aren't an arrow junkie and just hunt stick with the factory endless loop string. The more you shoot the more you should use a Flemish string.

[strum]

ive heard about this modd but never tried it. Boo, does this do anything to sound?. or does it just help the rubbers last longer?

[Boo]

Primarily it allows the rubbers to last longer but there in a reduction of noise and shock.
When you remove part of the ball you increase the space between the rubber surface and the metal ball. Before the metal removal the outside edge was doing very little work which is why you see a cut only in the middle. After metal removal you are decelerating the string over a longer period of time kinda like crush zones and air bags on a car. They are meant to decelerate occupants over a longer period of time making the likelyhood of organs being sheared off less likely.

[strum]

Primarily it allows the rubbers to last longer but there in a reduction of noise and shock.
When you remove part of the ball you increase the space between the rubber surface and the metal ball. Before the metal removal the outside edge was doing very little work which is why you see a cut only in the middle. After metal removal you are decelerating the string over a longer period of time kinda like crush zones and air bags on a car. They are meant to decelerate occupants over a longer period of time making the likelyhood of organs being sheared off less likely.

dangit...now I have to work on my S5s..its all yer fault Don
im going to try it for sure. and thinking about it I decided I don't want any organs sheared off either

[Boo]

Primarily it allows the rubbers to last longer but there in a reduction of noise and shock.
When you remove part of the ball you increase the space between the rubber surface and the metal ball. Before the metal removal the outside edge was doing very little work which is why you see a cut only in the middle. After metal removal you are decelerating the string over a longer period of time kinda like crush zones and air bags on a car. They are meant to decelerate occupants over a longer period of time making the likelyhood of organs being sheared off less likely.

dangit...now I have to work on my S5s..its all yer fault Don
im going to try it for sure. and thinking about it I decided I don't want any organs sheared off either

Especially the smallest one!

[FNARSCOT]

Boo we shoot a lot .(daily unless it is raining)That being said how often will a Flemmish string need to be adjusted? I heard horror stories about them needing constant adjustment. If they last longer and are quieter I'm all in. Faster is great too . If cat whiskers don't cost but 5 fps. or so great. Question is why can't I get one from you with whiskers as I don't think Danny Miller offers that option.

[Boo]

Boo we shoot a lot .(daily unless it is raining)That being said how often will a Flemmish string need to be adjusted? I heard horror stories about them needing constant adjustment. If they last longer and are quieter I'm all in. Faster is great too . If cat whiskers don't cost but 5 fps. or so great. Question is why can't I get one from you with whiskers as I don't think Danny Miller offers that option.

How often you have to adjust depends how well it was made, what type of material was used, how many strands were used and lastly the temperature.
My string with whiskers cost 6 to 8 ft/sec depending on the which bow and arrow used.
I don't believe that constant brace height changes is an issue with my strings but as a general rule I do not build them to be faster.

[onebigskittle]

Primarily it allows the rubbers to last longer but there in a reduction of noise and shock.
When you remove part of the ball you increase the space between the rubber surface and the metal ball. Before the metal removal the outside edge was doing very little work which is why you see a cut only in the middle. After metal removal you are decelerating the string over a longer period of time kinda like crush zones and air bags on a car. They are meant to decelerate occupants over a longer period of time making the likelyhood of organs being sheared off less likely.

dangit...now I have to work on my S5s..its all yer fault Don
im going to try it for sure. and thinking about it I decided I don't want any organs sheared off either

Especially the smallest one!

yeah them are the most important ones

[strum]

Boo we shoot a lot .(daily unless it is raining)That being said how often will a Flemmish string need to be adjusted? I heard horror stories about them needing constant adjustment. If they last longer and are quieter I'm all in. Faster is great too . If cat whiskers don't cost but 5 fps. or so great. Question is why can't I get one from you with whiskers as I don't think Danny Miller offers that option.

just as anexample..I got a string from Boo two weeks ago ..adjusted the Bh 2 times..once after 10 shots and once 2 days later..its not moved since.