What are the differnces??

JUSTANUFF · Post by **JUSTANUFF** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:19 pm

Between the Cub and Grizzly?I was informed by Danny Miller the string was the only difference,,,,along with the shorter stock on the Cub,,,but now I see the Cub is rated @ 190 lb pull and the Grizzly is advertised @ 200 lb pull,,,just tryin to get the strait story,,,is it in the limbs???Riser?? Combination of the two?Have e-mailed Excalibur without a reply for 3 weeks after numerous attempts

canoe13 · Post by **canoe13** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:40 pm

Yeah I heard that too; but I do not understand how a string can change the draw weight. Of course the arrow speed can differ by string build specs. I think it's riser angles like with the Matrix 310 and 330. Same frame length but different draw weight and speed.

BrotherRon · Post by **BrotherRon** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:00 am

A shorter string will cause the limbs to flex more, thus creating more draw weight...which in turn creates more...
My thinking anyway.

racking up points · Post by **racking up points** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:29 am

A shorter string would mean a higher brace height, less power stroke, less speed.

newbie · Post by **newbie** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:52 am

racking up points wrote:A shorter string would mean a higher brace height, less power stroke, less speed.

x2

bubba · Post by **bubba** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:42 am

X-3...........

robertyb · Post by **robertyb** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:46 am

Bingo.
The Cub has a shorter thicker string installed on it per Pinshooter who now is shooting one. Installing a standard Matrix string should get the speed back to 305/310.
I have been told that the strings on the Cub and Grizzly are not made by Danny Miller and are inferior to his strings. Anyone know if this is true?

JUSTANUFF · Post by **JUSTANUFF** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:22 pm

robertyb wrote:Bingo.
The Cub has a shorter thicker string installed on it per Pinshooter who now is shooting one. Installing a standard Matrix string should get the speed back to 305/310.
I have been told that the strings on the Cub and Grizzly are not made by Danny Miller and are inferior to his strings. Anyone know if this is true?

Thanks for the report

,,,now we're getting somewhere!!

newbie · Post by **newbie** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:58 pm

robertyb wrote:Bingo.
The Cub has a shorter thicker string installed on it per Pinshooter who now is shooting one. Installing a standard Matrix string should get the speed back to 305/310.
I have been told that the strings on the Cub and Grizzly are not made by Danny Miller and are inferior to his strings. Anyone know if this is true?

They are not made by Danny, i cant comment on the quality though.

vpsaline · Post by **vpsaline** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:45 pm

so the only difference is string, scope, color and length of pull. What can be done about the length of pull?

ehntr · Post by **ehntr** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:39 pm

racking up points wrote:A shorter string would mean a higher brace height, less power stroke, less speed.

X4. But according to Excalibur's spec on each bow, they both have 11.5 inch power strokes. Something isn't adding up with it's just a difference in strength length. If they have the same rails/risers/limbs and only the string length is different, then the power stroke has to be different......but that is not what Excal says....

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:05 pm

I have not even looked at either model. Y'all say the power stroke is the same ? Then it would be the Riser, is one Forward or straight or recessed ?

robertyb · Post by **robertyb** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:29 am

vixenmaster wrote:I have not even looked at either model. Y'all say the power stroke is the same ? Then it would be the Riser, is one Forward or straight or recessed ?

Nope, same bow. One stock is shorter than the other. Different strings as stated above. Put a standard Matrix string on both and they will shoot the same.

JUSTANUFF · Post by **JUSTANUFF** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:13 pm

robertyb wrote:
vixenmaster wrote:I have not even looked at either model. Y'all say the power stroke is the same ? Then it would be the Riser, is one Forward or straight or recessed ?
Nope, same bow. One stock is shorter than the other. Different strings as stated above. Put a standard Matrix string on both and they will shoot the same.

Thanks robertyb,,,think I am gonna go with the Cub,,only because that shorter stock feels a lot better for me

,,mods will be a Matrix string,Trigger Tech,,and Shadow Zone.

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:56 am

If'en its the string then one is made of Dacron n the other of D97? Maybe Force 10? Dacron is about 15 fps slower

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