I saw this statement in the trading post.
I thought what made the Matrix line change the speed was in the length of the rail.
Are the Matrix risers different too?
Thanks.
Swept back riser to slow down speed?
Moderator: Excalibur Marketing Dude
Swept back riser to slow down speed?
Matrix 405 Mega, Hawke XB30 SR Pro
trigger tech, Dr Stirrup ' Tac Pac
BEE 20" 429gr. NAP spitfires 100gr. Ignitors
BD400 XB30 SR PRO DR. Stirrup.
New 420TD Assassin
trigger tech, Dr Stirrup ' Tac Pac
BEE 20" 429gr. NAP spitfires 100gr. Ignitors
BD400 XB30 SR PRO DR. Stirrup.
New 420TD Assassin
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
from what i remember the 310 had a swept back riser.... the rest were the same until the bulldog.
Kandy-a.k.a Raid
Midge- a.k.a Micro 335
SSAS Spynal Tapps-Original
100 Grn 2" Shwacker
Boo threads
Don't wreck the fun house!
Midge- a.k.a Micro 335
SSAS Spynal Tapps-Original
100 Grn 2" Shwacker
Boo threads
Don't wreck the fun house!
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
If I am right the Sapphire, Grizzly, Cub and Matrix 310 use a swept back riser and are about 20 fps slower.
- racking up points
- Posts: 1608
- Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:41 pm
- Location: Windsor, ON
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
The Matrix 310 riser is flat, not swept back, (at least the one I acquired is...but mine is not OEM, it's a Dr. Miller nose job ). The standard Matrix riser is a forward riser. The Bulldog 400 has a swept back riser.
Leupold Optics
Boo Custom Strings
Black Eagle Arrows
Ti64.com Fastener Kits
Boo Custom Strings
Black Eagle Arrows
Ti64.com Fastener Kits
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
So if you put a forward riser on the Bulldog it would be faster by 20' ?racking up points wrote:The Matrix 310 riser is flat, not swept back, (at least the one I acquired is...but mine is not OEM, it's a Dr. Miller nose job ). The standard Matrix riser is a forward riser. The Bulldog 400 has a swept back riser.
Matrix 405 Mega, Hawke XB30 SR Pro
trigger tech, Dr Stirrup ' Tac Pac
BEE 20" 429gr. NAP spitfires 100gr. Ignitors
BD400 XB30 SR PRO DR. Stirrup.
New 420TD Assassin
trigger tech, Dr Stirrup ' Tac Pac
BEE 20" 429gr. NAP spitfires 100gr. Ignitors
BD400 XB30 SR PRO DR. Stirrup.
New 420TD Assassin
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
yup i meant straight.racking up points wrote:The Matrix 310 riser is flat, not swept back, (at least the one I acquired is...but mine is not OEM, it's a Dr. Miller nose job ). The standard Matrix riser is a forward riser. The Bulldog 400 has a swept back riser.
Kandy-a.k.a Raid
Midge- a.k.a Micro 335
SSAS Spynal Tapps-Original
100 Grn 2" Shwacker
Boo threads
Don't wreck the fun house!
Midge- a.k.a Micro 335
SSAS Spynal Tapps-Original
100 Grn 2" Shwacker
Boo threads
Don't wreck the fun house!
- racking up points
- Posts: 1608
- Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:41 pm
- Location: Windsor, ON
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
Are these hypothetical questions or are you fixing to tinker?bigrak wrote:So if you put a forward riser on the Bulldog it would be faster by 20' ?racking up points wrote:The Matrix 310 riser is flat, not swept back, (at least the one I acquired is...but mine is not OEM, it's a Dr. Miller nose job ). The standard Matrix riser is a forward riser. The Bulldog 400 has a swept back riser.
A BD400 mainframe modified to accept a standard Matrix forward riser would probably get better than 20fps just because there's a significant enough angle difference between the swept and forward risers. There is enough difference between them that I would say this mod is pushing the envelope. When Excalibur decides to join the 410+ class it won't be like this.
A Bulldog modified with a Matrix forward riser would probably get better than 420fps BUT it would have some seriously stacked and cracked limbs It would draw north of 300#. It's definitely not advisable but I'll hold your beer while you take the first shot!
Leupold Optics
Boo Custom Strings
Black Eagle Arrows
Ti64.com Fastener Kits
Boo Custom Strings
Black Eagle Arrows
Ti64.com Fastener Kits
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
I say forget the shot and we both have a beer.racking up points wrote:Are these hypothetical questions or are you fixing to tinker?bigrak wrote:So if you put a forward riser on the Bulldog it would be faster by 20' ?racking up points wrote:The Matrix 310 riser is flat, not swept back, (at least the one I acquired is...but mine is not OEM, it's a Dr. Miller nose job ). The standard Matrix riser is a forward riser. The Bulldog 400 has a swept back riser.
A BD400 mainframe modified to accept a standard Matrix forward riser would probably get better than 20fps just because there's a significant enough angle difference between the swept and forward risers. There is enough difference between them that I would say this mod is pushing the envelope. When Excalibur decides to join the 410+ class it won't be like this.
A Bulldog modified with a Matrix forward riser would probably get better than 420fps BUT it would have some seriously stacked and cracked limbs It would draw north of 300#. It's definitely not advisable but I'll hold your beer while you take the first shot!
Matrix 405 Mega, Hawke XB30 SR Pro
trigger tech, Dr Stirrup ' Tac Pac
BEE 20" 429gr. NAP spitfires 100gr. Ignitors
BD400 XB30 SR PRO DR. Stirrup.
New 420TD Assassin
trigger tech, Dr Stirrup ' Tac Pac
BEE 20" 429gr. NAP spitfires 100gr. Ignitors
BD400 XB30 SR PRO DR. Stirrup.
New 420TD Assassin
Re: Swept back riser to slow down speed?
So if you put a forward riser on the Bulldog it would be faster by 20' ?[/quote]
I think the bulldog use a different riser than the other matrix more like a micro riser with one screw but I am not 100% sure
I think the bulldog use a different riser than the other matrix more like a micro riser with one screw but I am not 100% sure