Custom Arrows or Have i been Shafted
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Pard, I hope that in the following year we have you making your own. I will personally commit time to help you with any questions you have. In my opinion, the thrill of taking game with the stuff your hands are in makes the reward so much sweeter. I don't mean any disrespect to those that buy their wares, time is money, and not everyone has time to do the things necessary to make their own arrows. I get that, respect that, and have been there. For me, it's not about the money saved, it's about being tuned in to the outcome, maybe a control issue, heck i don't know. I'm wired up in a strange way, and stopped questioing that a long time ago!
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HAHAHA Well perhaps soon I may indeed make my own but a dozen arrows would last me years since we have only a 3 week archery season of which I will hunt a few days. I just want a dozen good arrows and I hope the ones I have fit the bill.xcaliber wrote:Pard, I hope that in the following year we have you making your own. I will personally commit time to help you with any questions you have. In my opinion, the thrill of taking game with the stuff your hands are in makes the reward so much sweeter. I don't mean any disrespect to those that buy their wares, time is money, and not everyone has time to do the things necessary to make their own arrows. I get that, respect that, and have been there. For me, it's not about the money saved, it's about being tuned in to the outcome, maybe a control issue, heck i don't know. I'm wired up in a strange way, and stopped questioing that a long time ago!
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Well, I hope to help you make you r first & last dozen then brother.
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I make my own because it's fun and nothing better than getting a deer or Bear with an arrow that I built myself...
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Concerning spine indexing, I initially thought that with short, very stiff ( example: 18", zombies or STs), that spine indexing wasn't very critical as with longer arrows. It may not be for gentler launching xbows than my 380,400,405. My factory fletched STs which, of course, weren't spine indexed, don't compare to the same shafts, now spine indexed and helical Blazered. Even with these very stiff shafts there are significant stiff and weak sides. AND, with 260# and above, spine indexing makes quite a difference. I'd expect, as the launch force gets less, the benefits of spine indexing diminishes. But, the 380 and above , and the Micros, have a pretty harsh launch and spine indexing reduces group size.
From here on, I'll order either Zombies or double weave STs that are spine matched and indexed. Depending on cost, maybe even fletched. The arrows I've gotten from Boo, Big John and Jerry have all been class acts.
From here on, I'll order either Zombies or double weave STs that are spine matched and indexed. Depending on cost, maybe even fletched. The arrows I've gotten from Boo, Big John and Jerry have all been class acts.
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I will never index arrows as long as I live. I would rather throw that money at the lottery, there is a slight chance that I'll get something from it!
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Trying to predict where the arrow will flex is like predicting the weather. Been there, proven it worthless!
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Thank you!!xcaliber wrote:I bumped up the original post Scarecrow.
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Re: Custom Arrows or Have i been Shafted
If you aren't inclined to do your own fletching then check out the work done by your local archery shop. If more people would support local archery businesses rather than shopping online we wouldn't have to drive three hours to check out bows and other good stuff or worse pay over a thousand dollars for some bow you never shot and did so hoping you could rely on Internet reviews and YouTube videos.
Now there is no doubt you'll run into a jackwipe behind the counter every now and then. But most small shop owners are down to earth, good people who want to, and will, help you out. And even if you are inclined to fletch your own arrows and bolts, see what the local shop would charge you for the raw shafts and such.
The more local shops we have out there the better off we will all be in the long run.
Now there is no doubt you'll run into a jackwipe behind the counter every now and then. But most small shop owners are down to earth, good people who want to, and will, help you out. And even if you are inclined to fletch your own arrows and bolts, see what the local shop would charge you for the raw shafts and such.
The more local shops we have out there the better off we will all be in the long run.
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I agree, but unfortunately our local shop has completely abandoned the archery business, including the only local Mathews dealer within 40 miles. I have been servicing many folks for the last two years out of my garage, and although happy to do so, I'm really ill equipped. This is not to say that their level of service has diminished, but the corporate support is not there leaving several gaps in product supply that could & would benefit the brand. My service is exceptional in the eyes of the customer, but limited in terms of availability. I do want to open a full service archery shop, but I am 4-5 years away from that dream. I think that if you are fortunate enough to have a local shop, and their work is good, you really should support them. Disappearing group folks without support.
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It must be getting close to hunting season because Dan is an arrow expert again. Trying to drum up some sales, is my bet.xcaliber wrote:Trying to predict where the arrow will flex is like predicting the weather. Been there, proven it worthless!
The point SEW was making was that you probably don't shoot a bow that would show where spine indexing will make a difference. It certainly does make a difference at longer range and from a heavy draw bow - I have seen it first hand, unlike you who offers up as evidence a 50y test, from a lighter drawing bow.
For hunting purposes, and keeping shots under 50y, you won't see much difference from spine indexing arrows.
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So if spine indexing is not so critical ,to compensate for the lack of it , is that why with factory arrows you must turn the fletching to find out in essence which one will be the cock vane so each arrow will fly its truest flight?
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No sales wanted, I'm only doing a small amount of them going forward for my self and a few friends.
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...In all due respect gentlemen...I have found Dan to be 100% above board....all of my dealings with him have been me contacting him and not him contacting me to sell something....
...I think he made it clear of what his intentions were in that he is no longer doing this on a large scale....I am not siding with anyone but just stating the facts as they relate to me!
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...I think he made it clear of what his intentions were in that he is no longer doing this on a large scale....I am not siding with anyone but just stating the facts as they relate to me!
Anthony
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Dans the last person on here trying to sell something .The forum is about opinions and he voiced his experience right or wrong its his opinion. Im pretty sure he was refering to (normal" ) hunting distances not a hundred yards .maby he should have been more specific. I have given a bad answer a time or two but it was my best answer. Were not giving cancer or hiv diagnosis here its only crossbows.
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