Is This Normal?

Galgo · Post by **Galgo** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:10 pm

HI All.

I took my new Exocet out to shoot it for the first time and I gotta say if anyone out there doubts the accuracy, simplicity and power of these machines - don't. I am thoroughly impressed.

I did have one problem though. I used the Excalibur arrow puller to remove the bolts from the Excalibur foam block. Four of six of the arrows failed and the rear aluminum inserts came out of the arrows with very little force applied. I used furniture polish on the bolts and most of them failed after only 3 - 6 shots max. is this normal or is it a design flaw? Can I replace them with some sort of epoxy. Or is this just the cost of practising? Hope not cuz it's already getting expensive.

Oh ya two arrows had field points and two had broadheads. Let me know your suggestions. Appreciate the help.

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Galgo · Post by **Galgo** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:13 pm

Sorry could not post pic. While I'm at it can someone help me out re: posting pics? Thanks.

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GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:13 pm

No not normal, if aluminum just heat and put sme hot melt glue on the insert and shove it back in, If carbon use 24 hour epoxy. Reads like a poor glue job.

Galgo · Post by **Galgo** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:20 pm

Thanks Gary. Ya I should have mentioned they were carbon gold tip laser 2's. Should I talk to Excalibur? I'm just worried that my glue job will never be as good as the factory...when they do right I mean

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bj · Post by bj » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:40 pm

the inserts are short, and as you mention the arrow puller does not work well screwed into them...stick them back in with duraloc vane adhesive, and they will never come out...

new paradox · Post by **new paradox** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:51 pm

Mine are aluminum inserts in GT Laser 2 Graphites,I have to change to brass for added wieght. Does anyone know of a good way to get the old ones out?

curmudgeon · Post by **curmudgeon** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:45 am

I never had any problem with my home made arrow puller and GT inserts, you must have gotten some bad glue jobs.
This works for me. On my home made carbon shafts, I use Locttite 444 instant adhesive on both inserts an vanes. I never had Any problem.
This adhesive is Part No. 12292 TAK PAK FOR PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARD ASSEMBLY.

Sandman · Post by **Sandman** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:47 am

Galgo,

I realize this does not help you now but BJ sells a handy little set of pliers that have been "Mcguivered" for pulling arrows. I dont have a picture of it but I thought I seen one a while back if anyone has a pic of it could you post it for Galgo? This works really slick for pulling bolts out of targets and McKenzie's. Just thought I would pass that along.

Regards,
CHESTER

DOXNUT · Post by **DOXNUT** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:53 am

Galgo.....when you use the puller, are you pulling straight back? I've always found twisting "clock-wise" as I pulled at the sametime recovered bolts from targets much easier......just a thought

Galgo · Post by **Galgo** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:30 am

Thanks for the help guys. To answer the questions:

Newparadox:

Just send your bolts to me. I don't seem to have any problem pulling the inserts out

Sandman

The McGuiver pliers sound interesting. I'll do a search for them

DOXNUT

Good advice. I think Digger mentioned that in an earlier post and yes that's what I was doing. Seems that the little twist especially at the beginning "unsticks" the arrow a little. I would do that just enough to break the surface tension then just think about pulling them out and 'POP'

I've got some locktite at home here so I'll try that first and see how she goes. Thanks again.

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Bucktail · Post by **Bucktail** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:22 pm

Dan Miller sells a special pliers type arrow removal tool that works very well for removing your arrows. Not very expensive either.

Bucktail

Sandman · Post by **Sandman** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:34 pm

Bucktail wrote:Dan Miller sells a special pliers type arrow removal tool that works very well for removing your arrows. Not very expensive either.

Bucktail

Might be the same as BJ's. His are (dont quote me though)...I think $19.95 CAD.

Regards
CHESTER

Galgo · Post by **Galgo** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:50 pm

Just to give an update. I used locktite and reinserted the four inserts that pulled out. I had my doubts cuz three of them had almost no resistance going back in. Shot them yesterday and two pulled right out on the first shot. Two others have held so far for about five shots each. Must have been a bad batch or something.

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BUCKSHOT · Post by **BUCKSHOT** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:05 am

An answer for you about picture posting!
I tried to attach a direct link for you, but when I tried it out it said that the page was unavailble, sorry!
If you do a search for author (buckshot) and look for "Some easy picture posting steps" you should be on your way!
Good luck!

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:53 am

Galgo take some model CAV-super glue and them inserts won't be pulling out....It's a super gule you can order or pick up from a hobby shop, its a gap filling type so be carefull or you will be re-tapping your threads if not used sparingly..

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