Carbon Bolts (Beman vs Gold Tip)
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I just put my Beamans and GTlls on my scale
20" Bemans-4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=325-330gr
18" Bemans sames above for my Vixen 300-305gr
20" GTlls 4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=250-254gr
18" GTlls same as above for my Vixen 225-229gr
GT lls for my Paradox20" bolt + 85 gr brass inserts + 125 Slick=460 gr
20" Bemans-4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=325-330gr
18" Bemans sames above for my Vixen 300-305gr
20" GTlls 4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=250-254gr
18" GTlls same as above for my Vixen 225-229gr
GT lls for my Paradox20" bolt + 85 gr brass inserts + 125 Slick=460 gr
Digger
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Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
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2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
Tye, More like 75 gr. difference between Beman and GT lls. Your math needs polishing up.
Digger
2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
My post says
GT lls for my Paradox20" bolt + 85 gr brass inserts + 125 Slick=460 gr
250gr bolt + 125gr BH +85gr insert=460gr
Beman 330 gr shaft + 85 gr insert + 125 BH = 540 gr
20" Bemans-4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=325-330gr
20" GTlls 4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=250-254gr
GT lls for my Paradox20" bolt + 85 gr brass inserts + 125 Slick=460 gr
250gr bolt + 125gr BH +85gr insert=460gr
Beman 330 gr shaft + 85 gr insert + 125 BH = 540 gr
20" Bemans-4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=325-330gr
20" GTlls 4" vanes-aluminum inserts front and rear-no points=250-254gr
Digger
2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
Okay I'm kinda lost...
Gad said his Bemans weigh about 430 gr with a 100gr head, and his Gold Tips weigh 360 with a 100gr head also.
Gary said Bemans are 424 gr with 100 gr heads and that if I get GT's with brass inserts I'll be just as good
Then you say GT's are 254 + 100 gr head = 354 gr total and Beman are 330 + 100 gr head = 430 gr total.
Will the GT with the heavier brass inserts not bring me about even with the Bemans like Gary stated?
Wow my brain is feeling like a puzzle right now...
Gad said his Bemans weigh about 430 gr with a 100gr head, and his Gold Tips weigh 360 with a 100gr head also.
Gary said Bemans are 424 gr with 100 gr heads and that if I get GT's with brass inserts I'll be just as good
Then you say GT's are 254 + 100 gr head = 354 gr total and Beman are 330 + 100 gr head = 430 gr total.
Will the GT with the heavier brass inserts not bring me about even with the Bemans like Gary stated?
Wow my brain is feeling like a puzzle right now...
There is approxamately 75gr difference between a 20" Beman and a 20" GT shaft so just add a brass insert of 75 gr. thats not hard.
Digger
2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
2008 Y25 Relayer #593 Boo string, lumizone
2-1984 Relayer,
2-1992 Wolverine
Excal Phoenix, acudraw, VARizone
T.P. Titan TL4, acudraw 50, Varizone
Vixen, Steddy Eddy, Varizone
Martin Rage
Martin Jaguar
PSE Infinity
Tye,TYE wrote:Okay I'm kinda lost...
Gad said his Bemans weigh about 430 gr with a 100gr head, and his Gold Tips weigh 360 with a 100gr head also.
Gary said Bemans are 424 gr with 100 gr heads and that if I get GT's with brass inserts I'll be just as good
Then you say GT's are 254 + 100 gr head = 354 gr total and Beman are 330 + 100 gr head = 430 gr total.
Will the GT with the heavier brass inserts not bring me about even with the Bemans like Gary stated?
Wow my brain is feeling like a puzzle right now...
The weight I give you on bemans: 430gr with point, GaryL: 424gr and Digger 430gr. There is only 6 grains difference between this weights, it must be only the fletching type used on each of our arrows. Mine bemans are fletched with 5'' vanes.
I'm all for gun control. To me, gun control is putting 2 bullets in the same hole... UNCLE TED
Tye, go with the Gold Tip lazer 2 with a 100 gr head. This will bring you in at your bows min. arrow weight of 350gr. If you want to hunt moose at some time then go with a heavier arrow but for deer hunting you want the arrow to get there as fast as possible. Your bow has more then enough KE for deer so why go with a heavier arrow? Not only that but you can always change to brass inserts to make your arrows heavier and save yourself the money of buying new arrows.