50 Yard Broadside Shot
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I would pass. I wouldn't take the shot with my Paradox either. I used to shoot vert bow FITA distances and am comfortable shooting 90 meters, but limit all bowhunting shots to 30 yards MAX! Just my two cents, -JR
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DITTOLoneWolf wrote:Even with an Exomax I wouldn't take a 50-55 yard shot on ANY deer, too much can happen. Now give me a moose or an elk at 50 yards and a clear shooting path and that would be a whole different story!...Nope, but then again I am not you. Distance is to far with a Vixen as it/deer could jump the shot easy....
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NO WAY!! Try to grunt him in closer. When he's at 20-25 yards then nail him!!! Otherwise chalk it up as "victory" for the deer. Sometimes we go out and "win" sometimes the critters "win". That's just the way it works. That's why it is called hunting.
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What exactly makes it that much different? What is the purpose of bowhunting anyways? Granted the vitals of a Moose are larger however there is still a small fraction of room for error? I don't understand your argument?LoneWolf wrote:And here's my two cents on that subject!
If you want to shoot deer at 50+ yards why not use a firearm?
After all what is the purpose of bowhunting anyway?... To get them up close right?
Even with an Exomax I wouldn't take a 50-55 yard shot on ANY deer, too much can happen. Now give me a moose or an elk at 50 yards and a clear shooting path and that would be a whole different story!...
What I meant to say was what is the CONCEPT of bowhunting. To get them up close right???What is the purpose of bowhunting anyways?
My arguement is that 50 yards is not normal archery hunting distances for deer sized animals, that's what I'm talking about!... Moose vitals are much bigger than those of a deer, and moose do not jump the string or make any quick sudden moves as derr do... If you don't understand THE arguement by now well then I guess you never will... I' will tell you one thing though, I sure ain't gonna start argueing about it...
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I wouldn't take the shot just like I wouldn't take a shot past 300 yards with a rifle even though I can hit a milk jug at 500 with my 25-06. There are just too many things that can happen that are beyond your control. Even if the deer doesn't jump the string it can take a step and the arrow will hit 10" or so from the point of aim. Same with the long rifle shot. There just isn't any predicting where the animal will be when the projectile arrives.
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If a trophy class deer is standing broadside at 50 yards, and I have practiced at that distance I know I can easily hit an area the size of his vitals. The problem is, where will his vitals be when my arrow gets there? He might move, and a poor hit could let him easily be lost forever. If I don't shoot I may never see him again, but then I might, but even if I don't someone else might get an ethical shot. In other words, NO! At that range the chance of loosing him is good, and I don't feel taking chances like that. I've watched a buck drop 5 or 6 inches in the time it took an arrow from my Vixen to travel 30 yards! Luckily I missed that buck completely, but I had a chance to see firsthand what his reaction to the noise was. Even with my Exocet 30 yards is pushing it to the limit for me.
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50 yd broadside shot
I also did the math. I shoot 360gr 2016's out of my Phoenix chron'd at 295 fps. My Windows calculator tells me that velocity squared times grain wgt divided by 450240 is about 69.5 lbs KE at the muzzle. Based on the Excal arrow performance info, it looks like I lose about 3 lbs KE per 10 yds distance. That would give me about 54-55lbs KE at 50 yds. Rule of thumb is 50 lbs to penetrate a moose... so I've got enough KE for deer, given a good hit.
The real problem is string jump. I would take the shot IF the deer were of worthy size, totally relaxed, not spooked, and I had a clear shot and a steady rest such as a Harris bipod, a scope, and aim appropriately. I'd rather be closer, so I'd stalk if at all possible, but I've practiced at ranges up to 60 yards for many hours and I believe that the shot is within my capabilities.
The real problem is string jump. I would take the shot IF the deer were of worthy size, totally relaxed, not spooked, and I had a clear shot and a steady rest such as a Harris bipod, a scope, and aim appropriately. I'd rather be closer, so I'd stalk if at all possible, but I've practiced at ranges up to 60 yards for many hours and I believe that the shot is within my capabilities.
50 yard shots
Relax. Arguing about hypothetical situations is unhealthy.... Especially when the hunting probabilities are far more in line with the 10-20 yard shots with any vert or xbow!
Re: 50 yard shots
Yep!...grauhund wrote:Relax. Arguing about hypothetical situations is unhealthy.... Especially when the hunting probabilities are far more in line with the 10-20 yard shots with any vert or xbow!
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Re: 50 yard shots
Who's arguing? This is a simple disscusion is that not what this forum is all about? Obviously all members have their own opinions on this issue it's nice to hear what people think...grauhund wrote:Relax. Arguing about hypothetical situations is unhealthy.... Especially when the hunting probabilities are far more in line with the 10-20 yard shots with any vert or xbow!