It looks like I will be going to Newfoundland next year for a moose hunt. I'm thinking of taking my .35 Whelen and considering factory ammo for it is $45.00 a box I thought I would hand load for it. My rifle is a Remington 700 BDL. I was considering going with the Nosler Partition 225gr or the Barnes Triple Shock in 225gr. Anyone handload for this cartridge or have used either of these two bullets? I'm thinking I should be able to get 2600 fps with this weight bullet. I don't think I would be shooting past 200 yards.
Also has anyone hunted in Newfoundland before? Any advise?
OT .35 Whelen reloads
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Shakky,
No personal experience with reloading, but I can tell you not to shoot a whitetail with my son-in-law's relaods if you want any meat left!
If I see him this weekend I'll try to get some information on what he uses for reloading. He has a 700 Remington in .35 Wheelen, and I can assure you it is one potent round! Very managable recoil, and great knockdown power, just a bit destructive on meat, though.
No personal experience with reloading, but I can tell you not to shoot a whitetail with my son-in-law's relaods if you want any meat left!
If I see him this weekend I'll try to get some information on what he uses for reloading. He has a 700 Remington in .35 Wheelen, and I can assure you it is one potent round! Very managable recoil, and great knockdown power, just a bit destructive on meat, though.
wabi
For deer size game, bullets weighing 200 to 250 grains are the best choices. With the possible exception the Nosler225 grain Partition.
Heavier bullets are better choices for larger game. For elk, moose, and bear, the Speer and Barnes 250 grain spitzers at 2500 fps deliver a ton of energy at 300 yards. When zeroed three inches high at 100 yards, both have a point blank range of about 325 yards on a bull elk's vital area.
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DyHard
Heavier bullets are better choices for larger game. For elk, moose, and bear, the Speer and Barnes 250 grain spitzers at 2500 fps deliver a ton of energy at 300 yards. When zeroed three inches high at 100 yards, both have a point blank range of about 325 yards on a bull elk's vital area.
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Shakky
The 35 Whelen was one of my favorites from years ago.
If you can still find them, the 250 grain Hornady spire Point is a great bullet. I always used Federal cases and primers as my first choice.
According to my old logbook, a Federal case, Federal 210 primer, and the 250 grain Hornady Spire Point would give 2450 fps with a MAX load of 50 grains of 3031. This WAS a MAX load in my rifle. You should start at no more than 45 grains and work up.
My rifle, Mauser action/shaw barrel of 22 inches sporter weight/Fajen stock, would not give 2600 fps, not even 2500 fps with the 250 bullet. I did have one load with 4350 powder that gave an average of 2675 fps with a 200 grain bullet.
My logbook shows a 200 yard zero being 3 inches high at 100 yards. It also says I was getting 1.25 inch five shot groups at 100 yards. It would be, estimating, about a foot low at 300 yards. 200 yard energy would be about 2300 ft lbs.
The 35 Whelen was one of my favorites from years ago.
If you can still find them, the 250 grain Hornady spire Point is a great bullet. I always used Federal cases and primers as my first choice.
According to my old logbook, a Federal case, Federal 210 primer, and the 250 grain Hornady Spire Point would give 2450 fps with a MAX load of 50 grains of 3031. This WAS a MAX load in my rifle. You should start at no more than 45 grains and work up.
My rifle, Mauser action/shaw barrel of 22 inches sporter weight/Fajen stock, would not give 2600 fps, not even 2500 fps with the 250 bullet. I did have one load with 4350 powder that gave an average of 2675 fps with a 200 grain bullet.
My logbook shows a 200 yard zero being 3 inches high at 100 yards. It also says I was getting 1.25 inch five shot groups at 100 yards. It would be, estimating, about a foot low at 300 yards. 200 yard energy would be about 2300 ft lbs.
I never was as good as I used to be.
Shakky, you keep good records. What years were you reloading the above?Beaver wrote:Shakky
The 35 Whelen was one of my favorites from years ago.
If you can still find them, the 250 grain Hornady spire Point is a great bullet. I always used Federal cases and primers as my first choice.
According to my old logbook, a Federal case, Federal 210 primer, and the 250 grain Hornady Spire Point would give 2450 fps with a MAX load of 50 grains of 3031. This WAS a MAX load in my rifle. You should start at no more than 45 grains and work up.
My rifle, Mauser action/shaw barrel of 22 inches sporter weight/Fajen stock, would not give 2600 fps, not even 2500 fps with the 250 bullet. I did have one load with 4350 powder that gave an average of 2675 fps with a 200 grain bullet.
My logbook shows a 200 yard zero being 3 inches high at 100 yards. It also says I was getting 1.25 inch five shot groups at 100 yards. It would be, estimating, about a foot low at 300 yards. 200 yard energy would be about 2300 ft lbs.
Thanks for the info. guys.
Lyn-X I was thinking of trying the Federal ammo but I already handload for the .22 hornet so with the price of the factory ammo I was thinking of handloading for the Whelen. I have read that the factory ammo is a little light because of the amount of old rifles out there. Have you taken game with the Federal ammo? If it didn't cost $45.00 Cdn. I would go with it in a heart beat.
Gary I think your post should be directed at Beaver. I do keep good records but they are for the .22 hornet.
Lyn-X I was thinking of trying the Federal ammo but I already handload for the .22 hornet so with the price of the factory ammo I was thinking of handloading for the Whelen. I have read that the factory ammo is a little light because of the amount of old rifles out there. Have you taken game with the Federal ammo? If it didn't cost $45.00 Cdn. I would go with it in a heart beat.
Gary I think your post should be directed at Beaver. I do keep good records but they are for the .22 hornet.
Gary
That rifle was one of two custom rifles I got from G. P. Hedrick. I took delivery of the 35 on June 18, 1981. I have an old reloading manual that has a place in the back for notes and records. I have some good records from the 35, a custom Hedrick 6MM magnum, a custom Silkiss 360 magnum handgun(now called a 357 max) and a special favorite, a 458 Barnes magnum(now called a 450 Marlin) I have some interesting loads for a 350-3000 Savage that was custom made with a winchester action, Shaw barrel, and Fajen stock. It had a 20 inch light sporter barrel. That little fellow was putting a 75 grain bullet into 3/4 inch, off the bench, at 100 yards. It took a lot of groundhogs. and was less than 6 pounds!
There was a time when I was shooting about 600 357 mag rounds per week and I still have some of those reloading records. I never liked the 357 but had no choice since i shot in PPC competition.
That rifle was one of two custom rifles I got from G. P. Hedrick. I took delivery of the 35 on June 18, 1981. I have an old reloading manual that has a place in the back for notes and records. I have some good records from the 35, a custom Hedrick 6MM magnum, a custom Silkiss 360 magnum handgun(now called a 357 max) and a special favorite, a 458 Barnes magnum(now called a 450 Marlin) I have some interesting loads for a 350-3000 Savage that was custom made with a winchester action, Shaw barrel, and Fajen stock. It had a 20 inch light sporter barrel. That little fellow was putting a 75 grain bullet into 3/4 inch, off the bench, at 100 yards. It took a lot of groundhogs. and was less than 6 pounds!
There was a time when I was shooting about 600 357 mag rounds per week and I still have some of those reloading records. I never liked the 357 but had no choice since i shot in PPC competition.
I never was as good as I used to be.
I've been going over some old posts, and found this one.
I shoot 220 grain bullets of my own manufacture in my Remington 7600 in .35 Whelen.
57 grains of IMR 4895 gives me 2645 fps, and 55 grains of H335 gives me 2630 fps.
I find the IMR 4895 load to be more accurate in my rifle.
My bullets have a copper rather than gilding metal jacket, and a longer than normal shank, so I'd expect these loads to be safe if you use commercial bullets, but I'd recommend a reduction of 10% as a starting load for your rifle anyway.
I shoot 220 grain bullets of my own manufacture in my Remington 7600 in .35 Whelen.
57 grains of IMR 4895 gives me 2645 fps, and 55 grains of H335 gives me 2630 fps.
I find the IMR 4895 load to be more accurate in my rifle.
My bullets have a copper rather than gilding metal jacket, and a longer than normal shank, so I'd expect these loads to be safe if you use commercial bullets, but I'd recommend a reduction of 10% as a starting load for your rifle anyway.
I hunt, therefore I am.