OT: Canadain Firearm Buy Back Program

[Hi5]

What! No apology from the Prime Minister! He does them so well!

He could apologize for dropping that amendment onto the legislative agenda, knowing it would be controversial, and knowing the Gharbi anniversary was just around the corner.

Wrong guy made the apology.

[janesy]

What! No apology from the Prime Minister! He does them so well!

He could apologize for dropping that amendment onto the legislative agenda, knowing it would be controversial, and knowing the Gharbi anniversary was just around the corner.

Wrong guy made the apology.

This is why I have no use for celebrity assistance, for lack of a better term. They are only as strong as their publicist allows them to be.
He could have just ignored them, stood up for what I don't doubt he actually believes, but then how else would he maintain is endorsement deals. Better to have kept his mouth shut in the first place.

[janesy]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6679444

I have no idea how they are going to handle this one.
His own media, and the AFN?

[Boo]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6679444

I have no idea how they are going to handle this one.
His own media, and the AFN?

It appears to be a bit of a sticky wicket To think, that the Liberals are First Nation's largest benefactor and the hair on their back is definitely bristling. They definitely have an upper hand considering the ongoing publicity of the brutal treatment of their children in residential schools. You might say the iron is still hot.

[janesy]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6679444

I have no idea how they are going to handle this one.
His own media, and the AFN?

It appears to be a bit of a sticky wicket To think, that the Liberals are First Nation's largest benefactor and the hair on their back is definitely bristling. They definitely have an upper hand considering the ongoing publicity of the brutal treatment of their children in residential schools. You might say the iron is still hot.

You've been to the North, that iron hasn't even been pulled from the fire yet!

[Boo]

https://taxpayer.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=e436226d501953d6bf1068db8&id=6548b3054e&e=780af81d3a

[IronNoggin]

All the verifiable untruths Liberals have told about their gun ban

The push for Bill C-21 has featured an awful lot of Liberal MPs saying things that are extremely not true

A Canadian government should never be fully expected to tell the truth at all times, but the fight over Bill C-21 has featured an awful lot of instances of MPs and federal ministers saying things that are not true.

Bill C-21 started off as a pretty routine bill to codify some earlier Liberal orders banning the sale and transfer of handguns. But then, in an 11th hour amendment, a Liberal committee member slipped in a 400-page schedule of long guns to be criminalized.

By any measure, this is the most sweeping firearms prohibition in history and will ban whole categories of firearms that have only ever been marketed and sold as hunting arms. In response, the primary Liberal defence has been to simply deny that any hunting arms will be caught by the ban, even though this is easily debunked by even a cursory reading of the amendments.

Below, a not-at-all comprehensive guide to all the times that Liberal MPs have said verifiably false statements in defence of the Bill C-21 amendments.

Both the handgun crackdown and the Bill C-21 ban list apply almost exclusively to law-abiding gun owners as they seek to criminalize behaviour that has previously been legal and regulated. And, of course, the proposed legislation has no effect whatsoever on Canada’s apparently swelling ranks of gun criminals, who have already long abandoned their adherence to federal firearms legislation.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/untruths-liberals-gun-ban

[IronNoggin]

Trudeau admits Bill C-21 will target firearms used for hunting

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau admitted his government is using Bill C-21 to target some hunting rifles, but said that's because those firearms are "too dangerous in other contexts."

"Our focus now is on saying 'OK, there are some guns, yes, that we're going to have to take away from people who were using them to hunt,'" Trudeau said.

"But, we're going to also make sure that you're able to buy other guns from a long list of guns that are accepted that are fine for hunting, whether it's rifles or shotguns."

But on Monday, the prime minister told CTV News there are some firearms used for hunting that "unfortunately fall on the wrong side of the line."

"Not many, but there are some that are slightly overpowered or have too large a magazine capacity or technical reasons like that," Trudeau said. "Nobody wants assault-style weapons anywhere in this country. You don't use them for hunting, and you shouldn't have them for any other reason."

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/trudeau-admits-bill-c-21-will-target-firearms-used-for-hunting/article_df416b1e-8086-11ed-a95a-17dab054f790.html

Statement Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7hqksmH24

[Boo]

Do you own a Ruger Number 1 single shot rifle?
https://youtu.be/aYAha0XmfjY

[IronNoggin]

With the ‘most guns and most knowledge,’ NWT MP tackles Bill C-21

The NWT’s Liberal MP says he is applying his own gun knowledge in a bid to scale back the federal government’s proposed ban on some long guns.

McLeod said he had told public safety minister Marco Mendicino the bill will not have his support until he is “completely convinced” northern hunters, sport shooters and trappers will be unaffected.

“I have also indicated that I’m not satisfied that his people have done a good-enough job to consult,” the MP said.

“There are already some guns that are not semi-automatics on the list, and we need to know why,” he said. “Most of them are because they exceed the 10,000 joule [projectile limit] but we are trying to scrub the list, to make sure nothing gets on that list that people are using for hunting in the North.”

“Rifles are not just for hunting. They ensure our safety from predatory animals, such as polar bears.

“There is still time to make this right and we will keep working to make sure any amendments to the bill will not ban guns primarily used for hunting and for the safety of northerners.”

https://cabinradio.ca/112545/news/politics/with-most-guns-and-most-knowledge-mcleod-hopes-to-alter-bill-c-21/

[janesy]

Do you own a Ruger Number 1 single shot rifle?
https://youtu.be/aYAha0XmfjY

That alone, is a clear reason why this needs to be scrapped.

[one shot scott]

Hunting is always mentioned but i also feel for the guys who shoot competition. What they have done to the shooting sports is sad. A lot of guys used the Ar for 3 gun. Then they went after the handguns. What they are doing now is drawing attention away from all their previous b.s. Never before has a govt gone after a specific demographic so aggressively and it really makes you wonder why that is.

[IronNoggin]

Firearms bill debate pushed to new year as MPs weigh more talks over hunting concerns

The House of Commons public safety committee, which is conducting a clause-by-clause review of a Liberal firearm-control bill, did not meet Thursday as planned after the House adjourned Wednesday for the holidays.

The government says the aim is to outlaw firearms designed for the battlefield while respecting the legitimate needs of hunters and others who own rifles and shotguns.

MPs have been poring over the latest list of firearms that would fall under the definition.

There is debate over exactly what is included and what is not, because the definition applies only to some variations of certain models that meet the criteria — guns the government considers inappropriate for civilian use.

Another sticking point for the committee is the potential travel requirements, which staff confirmed would not be able to be approved until April at the earliest — delaying the issue even further into next year.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9352672/firearms-bill-c21-committee-delay/

​Referring to the highlighted content:

The first is an obvious and blatant lie at this point.

The second is a very clear indication of just who is making these asinine decisions.

Nog

[Boo]

Then there’s the 22 gauge gun that his MP supposedly uses. Note our safety minister smirking at her brazen lies.
https://youtu.be/WhusIW1qJE0

[IronNoggin]

Toronto Star Poll within the following article:

Gun owners caught up in controversial new Liberal firearms bill could get compensation, Marco Mendicino says

OTTAWA — Gun owners whose weapons end up banned under a proposed sweeping new firearms bill could be eligible for compensation, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino said Friday, as the Liberals work to contain political pushback over their latest efforts to regulate guns.

While the bill started off as a proposed law to institute a handgun freeze and other firearms-control measures, late last month it morphed into something much larger: a law that would lay out an evergreen definition of what technical specifications should get a gun banned in Canada and a massive new list specifying which firearms will now be banned.

What’s also frustrated gun owners and their advocates is the fact that after the 2020 ban, some bought weapons they believed were going to remain legal, only to have the government now seek to ban them, lending credence to their fears that despite saying otherwise, it is hunters the government wants to attack.

“Guns that were designed for wartime, for the battlefield, have no place in our communities. That is the judgment of this government,” he said.

“It is the intent of this government to focus on those guns and not hunting rifles.”

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/12/02/gun-owners-caught-up-in-controversial-new-liberal-firearms-bill-could-get-compensation-marco-mendicino-says.html

Mendicino's last two quotes are obvious & blatant LIES