Update on the Statement guy made about shooting 100yards

Swede · Post by **Swede** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:03 pm

Hahaha This friday I learned the hard fact about shooting two arrows at the same target. I have a picture in this posting.

http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/phpBB2 ... hp?t=14264

And we do have the trouble over here with the demand of weapon licens on our crossbows. Actually the licen demad sucks. We have so much regulations that controlls crossbow shooting that the bow shooters dont have, although we try to give the athorities the fact that our crossbows are not more dangerous than a compound bow(no licen to buy).

When I target shoot and miss(yes I do that too sometimes

) I always find the arrow maximun 10m behind the target. We have tried to tell this to the authorities but they refuse to listen. We have invited them to come and meet us and see this with their own eyes. But they are not interested. I guess they are just being so political correct making it hard for everyone with some kind of shooting interest.

Swede · Post by **Swede** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:03 pm

I do understand your problem. But then its hard to discuss anything else than hunting in this forum. And thinking of us in europe that is not allowed to hunt with crossbows we have no place here

. Our connection and joy with crossbows are only the "sport" side of it. I do understand your side of it but where should we get the possibility to talk and learn more about crossbow shooting and Excalibur products?

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:10 pm

jh45gun this might just be my opinion but if it is not the 100 yard shot issue, where they will change the truths to non truths to justify their lies, they will find something else.

The thing is, we, the crossbow comunity, has done a very good job with education and showing their blaintant lies and how they are purposely misleading people to keep things the way they want it. Just look how so many States have now acepted the crossbow. Others will follow as I believe that the Anti's are shooting themselves in the foot.

Swede, you and others like you that target shoot long distances are welcome here. This is a crossbow site and is for educating people on the uses of crossbows. Even though Excalibur makes and designs their bows for hunters by hunters, it is a testiment of their quality and dependability that target shooters choose it to shoot the 100 yard shots.

Earlier in the life of this forum, at this location on the web, I as well as others went Toe to Toe with members from Bowsite that came here to only bash crossbows. We won with our truths arguement and a history lesson. It is and will be a long battle, but is worth the effort.

I guess the only thing we can do to make it difficult for the to even copy & paste 100 yard shots into their own agenda is to make sure "Target Shooting" is always mentioned when talking about 100 yard shots.

Swede · Post by **Swede** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:12 am

Ok, I just dont want to mess up things for you guys. I know all the trouble we have in Sweden and I would hate if crossbow hunters over there would be in the trouble we(crossbow shooters) have. Its much easier getting "real" rifles and shotguns licens than a crossbow target shooting licens over here(but I would not call it easy getting rifles and shotguns either). Getting my first crossbow licens was much work I can tell you although Im a weapon owner and gunsmith! Have I understod it right, is it the bowhunters that dont want you around!?! If it is it all sounds bizarr. They could slip on their own argument against crossbow hunters and maybe one day they will not be able to hunt either, just like in Sweden.

If I ever mention long range shooting with crossbow I will make sure it clearly says target shooting. Yes, Excalibur is a hunting crossbow but also great for competetion. Today I can see that Excalibur shooters dominate the sport shooting and that must be good commercial value. There is no better way to try out a product than have it tested in different competetations against other crossbows. I guess thats why many buy Excalibur over here because it has proven to be the best in competetions.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:25 am

Swede, yes it is mostly the vertical archers that are fighting crossbows. I bet the anti-hunters in general are laughing at this. Crossbow shooters have told the vertical shooters that splitting hunters will only help the animal rights doctern to get all hunting banned.

But all they ccare about is not the truth but to keep the woods free of people with lies. In my opinion, they are nothing but selfish, stay out of my woods type people. But the more and more, people get to learn the truth, they are not so set against crossbows. They learn that compounds and crossbows are generally equal in their advantages which a shooter receives from their equipment, although the advantages differ from one bow to the other.

Swede, please do not worry about making it more difficult over here, if it something you say or not, they will find something somewhere to convert it to lies to try to lead others to join their fight. It is a long battle over here, but we are slowly winning, more and more States are opening up the archery season to the crossbow. I read portions of the minutes of one meeting on a hearing on crossbows, where one person from the State government told an Anti-crossbow person to sit down and be quiet if all he had were lies to tell the meeting, that he personally knew that what he had just said was not the truth. I wish I had kept that information.

About your comment

"Today I can see that Excalibur shooters dominate the sport shooting and that must be good commercial value. There is no better way to try out a product than have it tested in different competetations against other crossbows. I guess thats why many buy Excalibur over here because it has proven to be the best in competetions."

Yes and I agree and so does Excalibur. IF I was Excalibur I would be very proud as well. You can find the following message on their home web page:
Excalibur Crossbows, Winners of both the I.B.O.
and European 3D Crossbow Championships four years running!

Swede · Post by **Swede** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:19 am

By the way guys....are you all aware of the people shooting fields crossbow do that up to the distance 71yards at standing position. And they do it realy accurate with their 90lbs prods.

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:13 pm

I find it interesting to read some of the accounts of the archery "pioneers" here in the USA. Ones like Saxton Pope, Art Young, Will & Maurice Thompson, Will Compton, Howard Hill, Fred Bear, etc. They made some shots that would be considered completely unethical today, but they did it - and with a longbow! Can't remember which one, but in one story a guide was balking at the use of a longbow and wanted proof of the accuracy before he would take them hunting. The archer neatly clipped the head off a duck sitting on the water 70 or 80 yards away!
My point is that any bow & arrow can be very accurate at long range (50+ yards). When I was shooting a 60# longbow (instinctively) almost daily I was a decent shot. If I wanted to impress someone all I had to do was pick a target at 83 - 85 yards and shoot. At that range I could use the arrow point as a sight and hit consistantly

The accuracy is just a small part of the hunting game, though. Shot angle & placement, broadhead design & sharpness, and the game's ability to react (jump the string) are just as important as the archer's ability to shoot well.