I was thinking about that.chris4570 wrote:Go back to the thunderbolts if that was working.TYE wrote: Wierd because with field points my gold tips are dead on, but once I put these broadheads on them, they fly all over the place. Same broadheads were on my Thunderbolts before and fly fine. I can't figure it out.
Well it's just about time....
Yeah I have Wasp Boss 100's. I might try them out on the Gold Tips, and put the Thunderhead 100's on the Beman's.BigUgly wrote:Hey Tye jujst wondering have you ever used the broadheads that come with the essential kits. I've used nothing but the wasp boss hammers in 100 grain and are they ever accurate. I actually have two sets of broadheads one for target one for hunting. I never practise with field points. Just like gun hunting, my grandfather always said practise with the same thing you plan on killing with. May be a little more money but the game we hunt deserves the most ethical quickest kill. Also how is your breathing try not to breath in when firing. Try this deep breath in, crosshairs on target, exhale slowly, steady crosshairs then fire. This will also help you to remember to breath when a deer is in front of you.
How can I check the FOC? I forget how to get the FOC.wabi wrote:Tye,
A lot can affect the flight of broadheads. If you're not getting tight groups with the broadhead/arrow combination something is very wrong. It could be the broadhead design or weight isn't compatable with that shaft and fletching. It may be something you can figure out and correct, or it may just be simpler to find a broadhead that does work.
I'd check the balance point of that setup and see what the FOC is. If it's low, a heavier broadhead may cure the problem.
Hey Tye
From what I gather I would have to agree with Wabi that if the only thing that is changing is your bolt selection, you need to find out why they are different. The obvious thing to check first would be your FOC.
Another thing I would check just because it is good practise is the concentricity of your braodheads after being installed! You want them to run as true as possible on your bolt! You can check this by spinning the bolt rapidly (and safely) across a flat surface, or an arrow spinner and watch the broadhead to see how true it is!
The effect of an un-tuned braodhead will likely be a lot less obvious than that that of poor FOC.
When you shoot this combination, does the tail end of your arrow seem wably, does the arrow look like it is shaking?
If so that will be a dead give away to the FOC problem because the back will try to over-run the front of your arrow and throw the flight path off, and send the arrow any which way.
The fact that your arrows are "all over the place" would indicate a lack of consistency and control. another reason to check FOC. You want the front of the arrow to lead the back!
There are many ways to correct FOC, if this is the problem let us know and I am sure you will get many good suggestions from the fella's!
Don't give up on the carbons, they work great when set up correctly!
Another thing I would check just because it is good practise is the concentricity of your braodheads after being installed! You want them to run as true as possible on your bolt! You can check this by spinning the bolt rapidly (and safely) across a flat surface, or an arrow spinner and watch the broadhead to see how true it is!
The effect of an un-tuned braodhead will likely be a lot less obvious than that that of poor FOC.
When you shoot this combination, does the tail end of your arrow seem wably, does the arrow look like it is shaking?
If so that will be a dead give away to the FOC problem because the back will try to over-run the front of your arrow and throw the flight path off, and send the arrow any which way.
The fact that your arrows are "all over the place" would indicate a lack of consistency and control. another reason to check FOC. You want the front of the arrow to lead the back!
There are many ways to correct FOC, if this is the problem let us know and I am sure you will get many good suggestions from the fella's!
Don't give up on the carbons, they work great when set up correctly!
Enjoy the Harvest!
Tye,
Broadheads are just like fishing lures. There are ten million varieties of lures to catch FISHERMEN. A hook and a worm can catch a fish. Same is true about broadheads. The most important thing is that they fly consistent off your bow. The brand doesn't really matter. Just make sure they are accurate and sharp and they will do the job.
A deer doesn't care what brand just zipped through it
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Broadheads are just like fishing lures. There are ten million varieties of lures to catch FISHERMEN. A hook and a worm can catch a fish. Same is true about broadheads. The most important thing is that they fly consistent off your bow. The brand doesn't really matter. Just make sure they are accurate and sharp and they will do the job.
A deer doesn't care what brand just zipped through it
.I hunt for memories, the meat's a bonus!
Well I'm having problems with the Thunderheads on the Gold Tips. They're not flying consistant.ecoaster wrote:Tye,
Broadheads are just like fishing lures. There are ten million varieties of lures to catch FISHERMEN. A hook and a worm can catch a fish. Same is true about broadheads. The most important thing is that they fly consistent off your bow. The brand doesn't really matter. Just make sure they are accurate and sharp and they will do the job.
A deer doesn't care what brand just zipped through it
Hey Tye
TYE wrote:The Gold Tip Laser 2 with Thunderhead 100 is (13 / 22) - .50 X 100 = 9.09
The Gold Tip Laser 2 with Wasp Boss 100 is (12 / 21.5) - .50 X 100 = 5.81
The Beman Thunderbolt with Thunder 100 is (13.5 / 22.5) - .50 X 100 = 10
The Beman Thunderbolt with Wasp Boss 100 is (13 / 22) - .50 X 100 = 9.09
Yep, that would make your FOC around 9 %. The ideal would be around 12 % - 13 %. There are limits and different folks have different prefferences, but 12- 13 % is what I was taught! (bj is a great teacher)
.I am surprised that you are not having trouble with the Gold Tip 2, Wasp Boss combination, as that FOC sounds pretty low to me!
You may want to check your measure on that one!
Still the Thunderhead and Gold Tip combo doesn't seem totally out of whack, although it is still a low FOC at 9.09 it should be shooting better than the Laser/Wasp combo.
It's still possible you are enduring a problem other than FOC with your Thunderhead/Laser combo, but if the other arrow combinations are working reasonably well for you without adjusting your bow too much, I would still be looking for a problem related to your Thunderhead/Laser combo.
May I suggest that you re-check your dimensions and calculations to verify your values?
It seems to me that the 5 % FOC set-up should deffinately be the poorest shooting!
Enjoy the Harvest!
Okay so tonight I went and switched the Thunderheads onto the Beman's, and the Wasp Boss's onto the Gold Tip's... and BINGO
They're shooting exactly where I point them. They look like they hit on funny angles, but it's actually cuz my target would spin a bit everytime I shot a bolt into it.
And here I am
They're shooting exactly where I point them. They look like they hit on funny angles, but it's actually cuz my target would spin a bit everytime I shot a bolt into it.
And here I am