Coyotes

kendo kid · Post by **kendo kid** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:38 pm

I made a number of posts last week about the coyote problem and the fear being expressed by one mother living in the suburbs as the coyotes are getting more aggressive.

We lost an entire deer except the head after a shot in the last 10 minutes one evening in mid October. We were unsure about the exact locaton of the hit so decided to let it lay for the night as we have done many time before. By morning only the head, neck and bones remained. They had totally stipped all the meet and only the intact skeleton remained. We were very POed.

I will state it again. MNR is totally unaware of the menace that is building in the coyote population. I wonder how many attacks on children by coyotes it will take before MNR decides to act to cull the coyote numbers. I truly hope these desk jockeys are reading this forum and bring back the boundy. A $100 a head would bring some action and cull the numbers. However, we all know it will take the loss of humans before MNR does anything. The loss of pets will blamed by MNR on the pet owners not keeping an eye on the pets or keeping them inside. MNR will tell eveyone the coyote is only exhibiting its natural behavior in killing pets. What will they say to the parents when the coyotes starting attacking children or hauling them off into the woods. Wake up MNR as Ontario has a coyote over population problem. The hunters, the folks actually in the bush, are telling you there is a problem.

I hope that is plain enough language for them to understand.

Adam · Post by **Adam** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:35 am

Not sure if this is just a myth but i was talking to an older trapper at a convention and he had said to me "if you look close on a coyotes back they have a diamond of darker fur running along there spine by the base of the tail, the more pronounced that diamond is the more timber wolf they have in them." I went home and dug up a coyote hide I had tanned and sure enough it has a little more than half a diamond.

Maritimer · Post by **Maritimer** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:53 am

I had this coyote show up a minute after I shot a moose. It just stayed around 30 yards away from us watching while my partner and I field dress the moose. After the moose was in the back of the truck and we were getting ready to drive away 2 more coyotes showed up. The next morning we checked out were the moose was field dressed and there was absolutely nothing left behind.

BigTiny · Post by **BigTiny** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:21 pm

ecoaster wrote:BigTiny,

Shoot a deer and then hunt the coyotes over the gut pile for the next few days .

I dragged that last coyote away from the food plot and down a different way from the stand about 100 yards from where I sit. As of yesterday, no coyotes. Do I need to call them or just wait?

LV2HNT · Post by **LV2HNT** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:12 pm

I have a couple friends whose parents live in a populated area of northern VA. They had two cats untill one of them dissapeared. Then the mom heard a bunch of growling, hissing, and screaming one day in her back yard in the middle of the afternoon. She went out to investigate and found her last cat cornered by a yote. She started yelling at it and moving towards it to scare it away. It turned and looked at her for a little while, then it just walked off like it didn't have a care in the world. They are getting quite bold here.

I was lucky enough to hunt one afternoon in the snow this year. My dad went out in the morning so I followed his foot prints for a while as I headed out. Much to my surprise, a set of yote tracks came out of the woods and followed my dads tracks for atleast a quarter mile down the road. If he was stalking my dad or if it was a coincidence, I don't know.

I have also read a story of one attacking a toddler in his back yard in New Jersey. I think it is only a matter of time before they attack a child here. I hope they have enough scense to leave adults alone.

Dumbazz · Post by **Dumbazz** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:20 pm

Quite a few around my area. Gonna try for a few this year. Thinking my SP-10 with buckshot. Or maybe pick up a small rifle.

22 mag or 17 HMR?? Don't want anything big.

Would use my 870 slug gun, but would not be legal.

Anymore suggestions on how to get em??

Pydpiper · Post by **Pydpiper** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:41 pm

Why can't you use slugs? As long as there is no controlled hunt going on you should be just fine with slugs? The .17 is a great coyote gun, buckshot is fun too, but at buckshot range I prefer my bow.
I am dreading saying goodbye to my first year of deer hunting, but the silver lining in that cloud is that I can get back out there after the coyotes.

Partikle · Post by **Partikle** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:16 pm

I've seen then while in my deer stand but they were moving too quickly to get a shot off with my bow. I keep my bow loaded while I am walking back to the car just in case but I have never seem then while walking in the dark or while walking in the light for that matter. I think they are still afraid of humans where I hunt but I would be spooked too if a pack of them showed up while I was walking.

BigTiny · Post by **BigTiny** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:54 pm

LV2HUNT, now that you mentioned the coyotes following your dad, I thought about when I have seen them while still hunting. All but the last one was when I was backtracking out of an area. I don't think they are stalking us so much as they are hoping we will get a kill or drop some morsel for them to eat. Kind of like the way sharks follow ships.

Every one I have shot was running. I just make a whining puppy sound and they stop.

rutman · Post by **rutman** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:23 am

I worry about being scent free and D UVed too. I have had deer tear at me in the middle of the field in the dark because they think I'm a deer. What do you think a coyote thinks?, especially if ya got a little doe in heat or rutn buck on ya.

I was backed into the cedars on a field edge once at the back of a farm and heard what sounded like a deer coming, got the bow up and ready. All the sudden the ultra loud howl of the universe 10 to 15 yards into the cedars I was standing in. With that I heard the rest of the pack come and joined in the sing song. I nearly crapped my drawers as I backed out to the middle of the field with the bow up and ready.
That was the end of that hunt!

Dumbazz · Post by **Dumbazz** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:45 pm

Pydpiper wrote:Why can't you use slugs? As long as there is no controlled hunt going on you should be just fine with slugs? The .17 is a great coyote gun, buckshot is fun too, but at buckshot range I prefer my bow.
I am dreading saying goodbye to my first year of deer hunting, but the silver lining in that cloud is that I can get back out there after the coyotes.

I was thinking there was a law that stated you couldn't carry anything bigger then 4 buck when no deer season on, but I looked in the regs and don't see it.

If that is the case, i am going to give the deer gun some extra duty.

NewGuy · Post by **NewGuy** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:49 pm

I just bought a .223 for this purpose and now i just gotta find the time to get out!!

Bow Life · Post by **Bow Life** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:31 pm

i use a .222 mag and my dad uses a regular .222.
no problem dropping them, there fun to hunt too.
in the snow tracking thema nd trying to get ahead of them is the best, we've never had a problem with them turning on us though.

Pydpiper · Post by **Pydpiper** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:43 am

The no bigger than #4 rule is for when you take a shotgun out during a controlled hunt for animals besides deer.

Dumbazz wrote:
Pydpiper wrote:Why can't you use slugs? As long as there is no controlled hunt going on you should be just fine with slugs? The .17 is a great coyote gun, buckshot is fun too, but at buckshot range I prefer my bow.
I am dreading saying goodbye to my first year of deer hunting, but the silver lining in that cloud is that I can get back out there after the coyotes.
I was thinking there was a law that stated you couldn't carry anything bigger then 4 buck when no deer season on, but I looked in the regs and don't see it.

If that is the case, i am going to give the deer gun some extra duty.