Matrix issues

[taz3]

If you're not shooting the same groups as your Phoenix, something is out of tune. My wife picked up a 380 and hit a dead center bulls-eye at 20 yards and only ever shot my Phoenix once prior. As for the scope, Boo explained it best, look at your target the same as bird hunting and bring the scope up while looking at your target, and practice it over and over until it is second nature. Once the view is correct and clear you're right on target. The window is tighter for correct alignment, but once you know where it is, it's easy as pie to repeat.

[Boo]

If you're not shooting the same groups as your Phoenix, something is out of tune. My wife picked up a 380 and hit a dead center bulls-eye at 20 yards and only ever shot my Phoenix once prior. As for the scope, Boo explained it best, look at your target the same as bird hunting and bring the scope up while looking at your target, and practice it over and over until it is second nature. Once the view is correct and clear you're right on target. The window is tighter for correct alignment, but once you know where it is, it's easy as pie to repeat.

Yep! Once you were set straight the scope was as clear as AV gas wasn't it!
All kidding aside. Paul took about 10 mounts of the bow to figure it out and Lou took about 20 (but he almost took his eye out!)

[onebigskittle]

I think the more you shoot the Matrix the more accustomed you will become with it ...I have no problems with mine, Its like it was made for me ...It fits to a tee ..shoots great...scope is sweet and comes right up to me with wide field of view. Now the other crossbows I own feel like they are to big and heavy.
Only advice I could give anyone would be is shoot the dang thing and if you don't like the scope try something else. That goes for the string ,Bolts or the R.E.D.S. system right down to the broadheads you use.

[Hunt it]

I ditched the factory scope for a Leupold and one of Don's trigger jobs and string. Shoots 3" groups at 70 yards no problem. Using GT Lazer 3 arrows

[yooper_man]

Well got out to sight my new Matrix in for the first time yesterday and I must say, im having a bit of buyers remorse so far.First off, the trigger is Crap! The Tact zone scope they sent me is extreamly blurry on the sides.If your not perfectly square with the scope,everything turns blurry. And the best 20 yd group I can get is 2 inches with the diablo arrows.My $400 5 year old pheonix puts the Matrix to shame. It's so accurate I will not shoot groups at 20yds,it'll bust arrows pretty often.The way this Matrix shoots,im not afraid one bit to shoot groups at 20yds.At 60 yds my groups open up to about 4-5 inches.For $1000 crossbow,I expect better accuracy than this.I was recommended the Black Eagle executioner arrows and ditch the diablo's.So I have done just that,placed a order for half a dozen executioners today.I hope this will clear the accuracy issues up a bit.

I have to say its unsettling to hear this about the NEW Excalibur Matrix line. I have been thinking about selling my Equinox and getting the Matrix 335, but it might be a mistake. My Equinox has a smooth and nice trigger from day one, nothing has changed over time. I ditched Excalibur's Shadow-Zone scope because it didn't have good light gathering characteristics. My Equinox is super accurate too!

Andrew

[ranger]

At Boofest I got to handle a Matrix and I don't understand how people can not line up the scope that comes on them. I shouldered the bow ten times and every single time it was there. I accually like the scope. Same as a compound vertical bow line it up the same everytime and eye relief won't change. I have only good things to say about the scope and the bow.

I have no issues with the scope either but I like the XB30 for some reason.

[yooper_man]

Blurry edges are not normal and if not able to adjust, then the scope is defective. Proper eye relief adjustment is important for any optic. Eye to scope alignment is equal important, but if the edges are still blurry then something is off and is not normal.

Andrew

[awshucks]

Not all TacZones are the same............

[yooper_man]

Not all TacZones are the same............

Yes, and its a big issue That's where Excalibur needs to start correcting their scope problems. Quality control issues! Excalibur obviously outsourcing its scope manufacturing to China which is most likely the problem. In my opinion, each and every scope needs to be quality checked before it leaves the factory and long before it is ever touched by a Excalibur customer.

Andrew

[Boo]

I have 3 of them and they are all the same. They work as long as you work with the eye relief. Yes it is critical but if you mount the bow like a bird gun it works every time. I had some difficulty at first but with some repetitive mounting of the bow its no longer an issue.

[Excalibur Marketing Dude]

Well got out to sight my new Matrix in for the first time yesterday and I must say, im having a bit of buyers remorse so far.First off, the trigger is Crap! The Tact zone scope they sent me is extreamly blurry on the sides.If your not perfectly square with the scope,everything turns blurry. And the best 20 yd group I can get is 2 inches with the diablo arrows.My $400 5 year old pheonix puts the Matrix to shame. It's so accurate I will not shoot groups at 20yds,it'll bust arrows pretty often.The way this Matrix shoots,im not afraid one bit to shoot groups at 20yds.At 60 yds my groups open up to about 4-5 inches.For $1000 crossbow,I expect better accuracy than this.I was recommended the Black Eagle executioner arrows and ditch the diablo's.So I have done just that,placed a order for half a dozen executioners today.I hope this will clear the accuracy issues up a bit.cecil30-30

Your results are not typical, please call us and we can discuss your issues further, 800-463-1817 ext. 210. The scope is eye position critical due to the short construction of the scope so how you place your eye needs to be the same each time. Give us a call and we will do our best to make you happy.

Peter

[billygoat]

I dont know if you could say not typical peter. I have seen many posts regarding problems with excal scopes and i myself am on to my third.
There is in my mind a common complaint and that is that excal has done a fantastic job of creating amaizing bows but let themselves down some by buying cheap chinese scopes. I would think a partnership with hawke or leupold or the like would be a huge step foward for excal. Just a thought and if excal wants to keep its brand at the top im sure they will start listening to their customers feedback. As the company states in its adds regarding the matrix. We listened to what our customers wanted in a bow!. Enter the Matrix...

[ranger]

I shot my Matrix with a Forum member here and he had issues with the Tac where I had no issues with the scope but that doesn't mean I'm not putting something different on it like a XB30 . I like the Tac.

[yooper_man]

Eye relief needs to be adjustable, not a work with eye relief. All my firearms and Equinox I can mount like a bird gun and each and everyone is crystal clear with zero blurry edges.

I have owned short (1-4x20mm) construction scopes and they don't suffer from this critical eye position each and every time, furthermore the edges aren't blurry.

This problem has become very typical for the Tact-Zone scope and cannot be erased with a work around.

Andrew

[newbie]

Eye relief needs to be adjustable, not a work with eye relief. All my firearms and Equinox I can mount like a bird gun and each and everyone is crystal clear with zero blurry edges.

I have owned short (1-4x20mm) construction scopes and they don't suffer from this critical eye position each and every time, furthermore the edges aren't blurry.

This problem has become very typical for the Tact-Zone scope and cannot be erased with a work around.

Andrew

Do you own a tact zone? just askin