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When you reach your goal and get it removed I suggest insurance by chasing your threads with a tap soaked in tapping fluid to clean the rust out. I see some rust in your riser/mainframe threads too.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
I did remove the string and froze the riser then brought it inside and applied some heat from a soldering iron to the aluminum. Absolutely would not budge. i used a brand new vice grip that had never been used before so the teeth were nice and sharp but the mouth is circular. A flat mouth would have worked better because the circular mouth made it easier for the bolt to slip out. Now here is the problem while I was working the bolt I noticed it was installed with red loctite So I may just be screwed.
When I saw the loctite \I tried applying heat from a torch direct to the bolt in order to melt or at least activate the locktite - no joy.
Im gonna sleep on it for a bit and see if i can come up with a new plan for the weekend. I might contact Excalibur as well and maybe see if I can drop it off at the factory. Would rather they do the work thank anyone else.
Keep the advice coming please it is really helping me.
PS its a little hard to type considering the only thing i accomplished was burning my fingers on a soldering iron
Think Im not the right guy for this job lol.
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When I saw the loctite \I tried applying heat from a torch direct to the bolt in order to melt or at least activate the locktite - no joy.
Im gonna sleep on it for a bit and see if i can come up with a new plan for the weekend. I might contact Excalibur as well and maybe see if I can drop it off at the factory. Would rather they do the work thank anyone else.
Keep the advice coming please it is really helping me.
PS its a little hard to type considering the only thing i accomplished was burning my fingers on a soldering iron
Think Im not the right guy for this job lol.
F
Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
enormous wrote:When you reach your goal and get it removed I suggest insurance by chasing your threads with a tap soaked in tapping fluid to clean the rust out. I see some rust in your riser/mainframe threads too.
Thanks enormous thye may be red lcotite too. Boo tied to remove them a couple years ago and could not so I had not touched them. I gave it a go on them tonight and tone did budge just a touch just like the stirrup bolt did before i started tio strip it and several allen keys.
All the bolts on this thing probably need an overhaul.
Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
If the bolt has moved, use good vice grips and go both ways removing it, tighten some, loosen some, tighten some, loosen some and so on. Take your time and it will come out, be sure to use a lubricant while doing so, to prevent galling.
As for heat, keep ice handy and apply it to the bolt only this will also help the bolt from swelling with the heat.
As for heat, keep ice handy and apply it to the bolt only this will also help the bolt from swelling with the heat.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
Odd as it may sound I have freed up brakeline fittings on an old truck I owned by applying a little transmission fluid to fittings each day for a week.
It will remove paint and make a unwelcome guest of itself on any thing else you get it on, keep away from rubber it will soften it to much, but I have used it since with great effect on stuck metal fasteners.Being the head is broke off that area of tension should be off also. On sheared flush broken bolts we used to use a sharp center punch to tap on a corner type edge to turn,( in case it breaks again). A sharp hit/heavy tap or three with out going crazy on amount of impact, towards bottom of hole against exposed broken end of fastener can help break it loose before applying torque. Worse case it can be redrilled and tapped.
It will remove paint and make a unwelcome guest of itself on any thing else you get it on, keep away from rubber it will soften it to much, but I have used it since with great effect on stuck metal fasteners.Being the head is broke off that area of tension should be off also. On sheared flush broken bolts we used to use a sharp center punch to tap on a corner type edge to turn,( in case it breaks again). A sharp hit/heavy tap or three with out going crazy on amount of impact, towards bottom of hole against exposed broken end of fastener can help break it loose before applying torque. Worse case it can be redrilled and tapped.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
If worse comes to worse and red loctite was used you may as well cut if off and drill/tap two new holes in your riser and stirrup, you have enough room between the current holes, not a lot but just enough.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
Once you get everything out and clean I would put a thin coat of AntiSeize on all the threads of the replacement bolts or you will be going thru the same thing again in the future....
Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
Just curious would penetrating oil and a couple hours soakin work
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
Good point all I had was hoppes #9 and I let it sit or about two hours but i should probably apply it again and let it sit overnite. Thanks for that.JPjunkie wrote:Just curious would penetrating oil and a couple hours soakin work
Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
A two day soak is even better.
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SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
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Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
I use some stuff called Kroil my dad got it from US Steel It works really wellGalgo wrote:Good point all I had was hoppes #9 and I let it sit or about two hours but i should probably apply it again and let it sit overnite. Thanks for that.JPjunkie wrote:Just curious would penetrating oil and a couple hours soakin work
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
Maybe try something called an ease-out. It's sort of like a left handed drill bit thats tapered. You drill in reverse into the broken stud and it screws itself in and bites into the sides of the hole you're drilling, then you take it out of the drill and use a small wrench on the top of the bit where it's squared off. It screws in the opposite direction the bolts threads turn so as you tighten the ease out it unscrews the bolt. I've broken many a stud off under the hood and this is a priceless little doodad when you break a bolt off flush and have nothing to grab onto with vise grips.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
I think its like anything else thats really tight with out lubrication Your gonna hurt something
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
I like Kroil myself and my lifetime supply looks healthy
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SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
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SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
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Re: Almost "screwed" Need Help *edit bad news*
It seems like everytime I work on a vehicle around here with all the salt they throw on the road The last bolt always begs for the Kroilenormous wrote:I like Kroil myself and my lifetime supply looks healthy
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