Yep, big fan of simple!racking up points wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:34 amIf I was going to buy another Excalibur, it would be the 440. I don’t like the idea of a built-in crank for 2 reasons - the added bulk, (2 lbs is a lot), and long term it will break down.
That being said, I don’t see myself buying another Excalibur any time soon. My custom Matrix 410 is a proven long-range tack driver and it’s been basically maintenance free for 4 seasons. Plus, it’s purdier than anything off the shelf.
440 or 420 TD.
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Re: 440 or 420 TD.
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Re: 440 or 420 TD.
....truly hard to argue your points!janesy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:17 pmI agree whole heartedly on the maintenance issue Anthony. But on the other side of the coin, from my experience dealing with the general public for my entire adult life, I can assure you replacing the string is outside of the scope of repair for the average person.amythntr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:01 pm....I have to defer to the Congregation that claims the 440 over the A420TD...
....I still beg to differ on the weight because it is back heavy and not noticeable once shouldered....
....The price differential is definitely a factor....I only bought it because I got a good deal on eBay....otherwise I would have sat tight!
....The 20FPS differential is NOT an issue as far as I see.
....Yes, the crank is definitely both a positive and a negative....a positive because it makes cocking so easy....a negative because of the maintenance required, in that when it needs to be changed it must go back to Excalibur....this is a very bad feature!
....I presently own both the A360 and the A420TD....so if one goes down I have the other....
....Hopefully Excal will wake up and realize that most people view this more as a con than a positive and figure something out so that the operator will be able to change the rope themselves.
Anthony
Not to be disrespectful at all to anyone, but the vast, vast majority of users would choose not to do the work themselves either for lack of ability or desire to attempt to do so.
At which point, Excalibur would be called in to now do a repair, let alone a maintenance issue. And provide all the lost fasteners from the attempted repair. All of which would make it onto Facebook as somehow Excal's fault
Just do a search on how many users have stripped out the screws on their cheek piece. I'd bet hard dollars that it's less than 5% of Excal owners that have ever even thought that the limbs and risers are removable, let alone removed them themselves. And that's how it should stay
....I have a new slogan for Excalibur...."cams and cables are dead....but replaced by a cocking mechanism rope!"
Anthony
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GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
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Anthony
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AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: 440 or 420 TD.
....If one is looking for a Bulldog 440, Wyverns has an exceptional deal which includes the Hawke XB30Pro scope, DrStirrup bumpers and limp dampeners, arras, slick tricks....all for $1,199.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyvernized-Excalibur-Matrix-Bulldog-440-Custom-Kit-Mossy-Oak-NEW/333365193923?epid=22034148339&hash=item4d9e1d2cc3:g:mPcAAOSwrndcduo2
Anthony
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyvernized-Excalibur-Matrix-Bulldog-440-Custom-Kit-Mossy-Oak-NEW/333365193923?epid=22034148339&hash=item4d9e1d2cc3:g:mPcAAOSwrndcduo2
Anthony
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: 440 or 420 TD.
WOW that is a deal!
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Re: 440 or 420 TD.
....it sure is...had I not bought the A420TD for a net cost of $1300 USD after scope sale....I might have taken a closer look at it...
....come to think of it....when Excalibur came to a local pro shop....the Excalibur people were really playing down the 440 saying that hardly anyone buys it (so I never shot it)....they were spending more time with the Assassins, so i shot the A420TD and I actually helped complete a sale for them on someone looking at the A360.
Anthony
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: 440 or 420 TD.
....not such a deal afterwards....I looked at it again thinking this was too good to pass up....even though I wasn't gonna buy it....then Aha...Wyverns takes the Excalibur Charger out of the package....if it looks too good, it probably is!amythntr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:31 pm....If one is looking for a Bulldog 440, Wyverns has an exceptional deal which includes the Hawke XB30Pro scope, DrStirrup bumpers and limp dampeners, arras, slick tricks....all for $1,199.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyvernized-Excalibur-Matrix-Bulldog-440-Custom-Kit-Mossy-Oak-NEW/333365193923?epid=22034148339&hash=item4d9e1d2cc3:g:mPcAAOSwrndcduo2
Anthony
Anthony
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: 440 or 420 TD.
In that case it's good for stopping your boat from drifting downstream.amythntr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:38 pm....not such a deal afterwards....I looked at it again thinking this was too good to pass up....even though I wasn't gonna buy it....then Aha...Wyverns takes the Excalibur Charger out of the package....if it looks too good, it probably is!amythntr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:31 pm....If one is looking for a Bulldog 440, Wyverns has an exceptional deal which includes the Hawke XB30Pro scope, DrStirrup bumpers and limp dampeners, arras, slick tricks....all for $1,199.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyvernized-Excalibur-Matrix-Bulldog-440-Custom-Kit-Mossy-Oak-NEW/333365193923?epid=22034148339&hash=item4d9e1d2cc3:g:mPcAAOSwrndcduo2
Anthony
Anthony
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Re: 440 or 420 TD.
....yes sir....was heading toward the rocks!janesy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:11 pmIn that case it's good for stopping your boat from drifting downstream.amythntr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:38 pm....not such a deal afterwards....I looked at it again thinking this was too good to pass up....even though I wasn't gonna buy it....then Aha...Wyverns takes the Excalibur Charger out of the package....if it looks too good, it probably is!amythntr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:31 pm....If one is looking for a Bulldog 440, Wyverns has an exceptional deal which includes the Hawke XB30Pro scope, DrStirrup bumpers and limp dampeners, arras, slick tricks....all for $1,199.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyvernized-Excalibur-Matrix-Bulldog-440-Custom-Kit-Mossy-Oak-NEW/333365193923?epid=22034148339&hash=item4d9e1d2cc3:g:mPcAAOSwrndcduo2
Anthony
Anthony
Anthony
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: 440 or 420 TD.
Just kidding, I love the 440!
Blackout BD-Axe "Hatchet340"
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Re: 440 or 420 TD.
....seems like I might have loved it too ...
....love is sooooo expensive!
Anthony
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: 440 or 420 TD.
I really like the Charger for my BD400. I especially like the removable part. When hunting , it stays in my pack when not being used. A used C-2 might be a good ace in the hole backup. I really wouldn’t want one built in.