On the other hand if I were to get caught shooting one my a$$ would be in serious trouble with the law....Cruelty to cats.....However mistakes do happen I reckon and I shoot it for a coon
new animal to hunt ????
I have not got too that point as yet, but would like to say I have. I have to many cats running around here wild that are supposed to be house pets. All they do is run loose and have many, many baby cats to be hit by cars and what have ya.
On the other hand if I were to get caught shooting one my a$$ would be in serious trouble with the law....Cruelty to cats.....However mistakes do happen I reckon and I shoot it for a coon
On the other hand if I were to get caught shooting one my a$$ would be in serious trouble with the law....Cruelty to cats.....However mistakes do happen I reckon and I shoot it for a coon
Always learning!!
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You cat killers are a pathetic bunch. Why not just come out of the closet and say it. You hate cats and you like wasting them! It all started when you were an ignorant, little tike. You got scratched by the neighbor's cat when you tried to pick it up by the tail end. Since then you hate cats!
...can you tell I'm a cat lover?
...can you tell I'm a cat lover?
Pete
The great outdoors is where I want to be.
The great outdoors is where I want to be.
For each his owen. If you think cat kill a lot of rabbits, what about hawks and owls. How many times have you been it the woods and seen the hawk come in hunting squirrel. ( limb rats ) or Seen them hunt rabbits.
I'm sure there are some that shot them on the spot too. I know people that if they're hunting and they see a dog that's chasing deer they will shoot them.
My point is, it's all these animals nature to hunt. But They all need to have checks and balances. The prey can and will leave to another location if they have to. Just the same as if one or two of the cats ect.... don't come home. I feel, it's different if there is one or two cats. But ten or more . Hey sometime things happen and no one needs to now or hear about it.
My two cents.
I'm sure there are some that shot them on the spot too. I know people that if they're hunting and they see a dog that's chasing deer they will shoot them.
My point is, it's all these animals nature to hunt. But They all need to have checks and balances. The prey can and will leave to another location if they have to. Just the same as if one or two of the cats ect.... don't come home. I feel, it's different if there is one or two cats. But ten or more . Hey sometime things happen and no one needs to now or hear about it.
My two cents.
CORRECTION...DOXNUT wrote: Yes, maybe it's cruel, but we can't just stand around and watch our fuzzy natural animal friends be over-taken by our mistakes.
Sorry, I just spotted a typo so to speak.
This is the statement I meant to quote and not the statement above
I have to agree with you 100%This has become a problem due to animal owners, not evolution.
The same with the banning of Pit-Bulls here in Ottawa. If the dogs were brought up and cared for properly in the first place perhaps the dog attacks wouldn't happen as often... Just about any breed of dog can be trained to be vicious, not just Pit Bulls. It all depends on the way the owner trains the dog, if you have an irresponsible owner who doesn't train the animal properly your gonna have a loose canon on 4 legs on your hands. What breed are they gonna target next??? Rotweilers ??? German Sheppards ??? Dobermans ???. With that said, it's the owners of these vicious dogs that the need training on how to train dogs and to know enough that if you know your dog is a loose canon to keep him/her on a leash and muzzled if need be... I think it's fair to blame the owners of the animals, not the animals!...
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Ontario Trophy Bucks
I've got brain damage from 2 concussions this past winter, and I forget alot, and studder and all that jibber jabber.Just a thought
When you remove natural predators from nature like the wolf for example, you have many problems with the size and health of game animal herds. We all know that, in recent years the re-introduction of wolves has become common, also the discontinuation of the wolf hunt, in some areas! (Algonquin municipalities in On. for example)
Biologists have determined that after a million years it is natures way and it is actually better for wildlife to have a good natural mix of predator and prey.
The natural mix does not include feral cats and pigs or dogs for that matter. Personnally I feel that if we are to be the guardians of nature that it would be our responsibilty to keep the mix at a ballanced level in favor of indigenous species!
BTW I have a housepet cat
Biologists have determined that after a million years it is natures way and it is actually better for wildlife to have a good natural mix of predator and prey.
The natural mix does not include feral cats and pigs or dogs for that matter. Personnally I feel that if we are to be the guardians of nature that it would be our responsibilty to keep the mix at a ballanced level in favor of indigenous species!
BTW I have a housepet cat
Enjoy the Harvest!
I totally agree Buckshot. Wolves would certainly take care of quite a few problems becoming all the more common and evident...especially in the United States. CWD would probably completely disappear from the wild if wolves were around...and certain undesirable species would be probably be lessened by wolves.
As for cats and dogs(I have one of each), I have trouble with shooting them unless there is an unusual amount of them causing an imbalance in the local environment. I totally disaprove shooting the neighbor's pets. Doing so is to class yourself with hooligans and common criminals. As hunters, and some of us gun owners, we don't need any extra bad publicity. Instead, get the local SPCA involved if there is an unusual amount of pets from one household. There are laws in place that residents must abide by.
As for cats and dogs(I have one of each), I have trouble with shooting them unless there is an unusual amount of them causing an imbalance in the local environment. I totally disaprove shooting the neighbor's pets. Doing so is to class yourself with hooligans and common criminals. As hunters, and some of us gun owners, we don't need any extra bad publicity. Instead, get the local SPCA involved if there is an unusual amount of pets from one household. There are laws in place that residents must abide by.
Pete
The great outdoors is where I want to be.
The great outdoors is where I want to be.
Yep!, We have a cat (Persian) and a dog ( Yorkshire Terrier), had two dogs but my Rottie (my best friend) was put down in Oct. My dogs and cat never ran loose and never will run loose unattended, unless of course in my back yard.GaryL wrote:Well stated WOODSMAN"
There are laws in place that residents must abide by."
Ontario Trophy Bucks
Ayep LW, I have three dogs fixed and kept in the yard/house. Had a cat fixed and never left the inside of the house. To let cats and dogs run on the loose side ya need to be in the country and then they should still be fixed. If ya raise hunting dogs or guard dogs they should always be contained then no problems in any giving area.... 
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When I am out hunting I see wild cats all the time, they are really becoming quite a problem here.
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Update
The in-laws called the MD yesterday. There are no bylaws regarding cats yet, but they will lend you a live trap. They recommended bringing the cats to the pound after they are caught. My mother in law was SOOO ready to shoot them. We had a good laugh at her expense! The ypick up the trap today. Should be an interesting few days!!
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brayhaven
Fearl & free roaming housecats are devastating to small wildlife populations. Any wildlife biologist will tell you. They kill huge numbers of songbirds & small animals. My cousin who was a game biologist said they killed more than all the other predatory animals combined. He also said they have no natural sense of moderation like the evolved wild species. They have lost it due to many centuries of domestication. In other words, they don't kill just what they need to eat. They kill constantly and a loose one should be fair game. I have 3 cats that live in my barn and roam the property. If they got caught killing birds at someone' feeder here, they would be history & rightly so. I like cats,but not when they disrupt the natural balance of things. WI screwed up by not just quietly listing "trespassing" cats as unprotected species. The public controversy was bound to go against them because of un-educated public sentiment. Mosty places,any domestic animal that is on your property is fair to shoot. Though most don't declare them as "game animals"
Greg
Greg
Another reason not to have a cat. From today's newspaper.
An Ottawa man has been sentenced to 12 months' probation after he accidentally tripped an alarm wire while trying to tap into the phone line of the X-rated video store below his Bronson Street apartment. Court heard yesterday that Justin Lewry, 23, ran out of time on his cellphone. On June 20, 2004, he tried to tap the video store's phone line by cutting a hole in the floor of his apartment, which was the ceiling of the video store, to reach the phone wires. However, he triggered the store alarm when he handled one of the wires. Mr. Lewry's cat, meanwhile, jumped into the hole in the ceiling and, while attempting to pull the cat out, Mr. Lewry fell into the hole. Mr. Lewry was also directed to pay repair expenses.
An Ottawa man has been sentenced to 12 months' probation after he accidentally tripped an alarm wire while trying to tap into the phone line of the X-rated video store below his Bronson Street apartment. Court heard yesterday that Justin Lewry, 23, ran out of time on his cellphone. On June 20, 2004, he tried to tap the video store's phone line by cutting a hole in the floor of his apartment, which was the ceiling of the video store, to reach the phone wires. However, he triggered the store alarm when he handled one of the wires. Mr. Lewry's cat, meanwhile, jumped into the hole in the ceiling and, while attempting to pull the cat out, Mr. Lewry fell into the hole. Mr. Lewry was also directed to pay repair expenses.
Woodsman
I don't hate cats.......watching a bobcat hunt is facinating and I have a lot of respect for them as predators.....domestic cats, on the other hand, belong in the house where they can't harm wildlife......the difference??? A domestic cat doesn't kill to "make a living" they kill for fun......yes, it is their nature, but it must be controlled.....they DON'T belong in the woods and fields! As far a wolves go......better talk to the hunters and ranchers in Montana and find out the truth about re-introducing wolves! And, by the way......where I live, there is no law against shooting a domestic animal that is causing problems......but I don't live in the city......where I hunt, I have strict orders from the ranchers to shoot any dog not wearing a collar.
Diesel
Hawks and owls, unlike domestic cats, must kill to live.......HUGE difference! I watched a hawk kill a cardinal off my bird feeder a couple of years ago.....it was nature in action......the hawk has to eat too!
Lonewolf
I agree, the animal is not to blame.....but it's illegal to shoot the owners regardless of how much they deserve it! I personally have no objection to someone owning lions, tigers or bears (oh my)......just as long as they keep the animals controlled and on their own property!
GaryL
I live in the country and letting dogs run loose is bad news....even in the country........dogs that are great pets at home turn into something totally different when the "pack up" with other dogs.......ever seen what a group of "pets" can do to a flock of sheep or a herd of cattle.......ever seen a dog run a horse through a fence???? Trust me, the country is NO place for loose dogs......I've had dogs that belonged to neighbors come up and growl at me on my own property........that doesn't sit well with me!
Bottom line, this wouldn't be an issue if people would control their animals at all times!
I don't hate cats.......watching a bobcat hunt is facinating and I have a lot of respect for them as predators.....domestic cats, on the other hand, belong in the house where they can't harm wildlife......the difference??? A domestic cat doesn't kill to "make a living" they kill for fun......yes, it is their nature, but it must be controlled.....they DON'T belong in the woods and fields! As far a wolves go......better talk to the hunters and ranchers in Montana and find out the truth about re-introducing wolves! And, by the way......where I live, there is no law against shooting a domestic animal that is causing problems......but I don't live in the city......where I hunt, I have strict orders from the ranchers to shoot any dog not wearing a collar.
Diesel
Hawks and owls, unlike domestic cats, must kill to live.......HUGE difference! I watched a hawk kill a cardinal off my bird feeder a couple of years ago.....it was nature in action......the hawk has to eat too!
Lonewolf
I agree, the animal is not to blame.....but it's illegal to shoot the owners regardless of how much they deserve it!
I personally have no objection to someone owning lions, tigers or bears (oh my)......just as long as they keep the animals controlled and on their own property!GaryL
I live in the country and letting dogs run loose is bad news....even in the country........dogs that are great pets at home turn into something totally different when the "pack up" with other dogs.......ever seen what a group of "pets" can do to a flock of sheep or a herd of cattle.......ever seen a dog run a horse through a fence???? Trust me, the country is NO place for loose dogs......I've had dogs that belonged to neighbors come up and growl at me on my own property........that doesn't sit well with me!
Bottom line, this wouldn't be an issue if people would control their animals at all times!
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