Matrix issues
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Re: Matrix issues
I dont know if you could say not typical peter. I have seen many posts regarding problems with excal scopes and i myself am on to my third.
There is in my mind a common complaint and that is that excal has done a fantastic job of creating amaizing bows but let themselves down some by buying cheap chinese scopes. I would think a partnership with hawke or leupold or the like would be a huge step foward for excal. Just a thought and if excal wants to keep its brand at the top im sure they will start listening to their customers feedback. As the company states in its adds regarding the matrix. We listened to what our customers wanted in a bow!. Enter the Matrix...
There is in my mind a common complaint and that is that excal has done a fantastic job of creating amaizing bows but let themselves down some by buying cheap chinese scopes. I would think a partnership with hawke or leupold or the like would be a huge step foward for excal. Just a thought and if excal wants to keep its brand at the top im sure they will start listening to their customers feedback. As the company states in its adds regarding the matrix. We listened to what our customers wanted in a bow!. Enter the Matrix...
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Re: Matrix issues
I shot my Matrix with a Forum member here and he had issues with the Tac where I had no issues with the scope but that doesn't mean I'm not putting something different on it like a XB30 . I like the Tac.
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Re: Matrix issues
Eye relief needs to be adjustable, not a work with eye relief. All my firearms and Equinox I can mount like a bird gun and each and everyone is crystal clear with zero blurry edges.
I have owned short (1-4x20mm) construction scopes and they don't suffer from this critical eye position each and every time, furthermore the edges aren't blurry.
This problem has become very typical for the Tact-Zone scope and cannot be erased with a work around.
Andrew
I have owned short (1-4x20mm) construction scopes and they don't suffer from this critical eye position each and every time, furthermore the edges aren't blurry.
This problem has become very typical for the Tact-Zone scope and cannot be erased with a work around.
Andrew
2013 Excalibur Matrix 355 Xtra
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
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2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
Re: Matrix issues
Do you own a tact zone? just askinyooper_man wrote:Eye relief needs to be adjustable, not a work with eye relief. All my firearms and Equinox I can mount like a bird gun and each and everyone is crystal clear with zero blurry edges.
I have owned short (1-4x20mm) construction scopes and they don't suffer from this critical eye position each and every time, furthermore the edges aren't blurry.
This problem has become very typical for the Tact-Zone scope and cannot be erased with a work around.
Andrew
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Re: Matrix issues
Nope, I don't own one, but I have looked through a few and I quickly see why some people were unhappy.newbie wrote:Do you own a tact zone? just askinyooper_man wrote:Eye relief needs to be adjustable, not a work with eye relief. All my firearms and Equinox I can mount like a bird gun and each and everyone is crystal clear with zero blurry edges.
I have owned short (1-4x20mm) construction scopes and they don't suffer from this critical eye position each and every time, furthermore the edges aren't blurry.
This problem has become very typical for the Tact-Zone scope and cannot be erased with a work around.
Andrew
I have been thinking about buying the Matrix 355, but probably won't since I have been hearing more and more limb and tip issues as well.
Andrew
2013 Excalibur Matrix 355 Xtra
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
Re: Matrix issues
scope tells you when you don't mount the bow properly is the way I look at it. reminds you of bad form
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Re: Matrix issues
Sure, I am certain some people have difficulty properly shouldering their crossbow for proper eye scope alignment.newbie wrote:scope tells you when you don't mount the bow properly is the way I look at it. reminds you of bad form
I see no issue at all for owners of Tact-Zone scopes if eye relief adjustment can be made properly. If all adjustment efforts fail and the scope remains blurry then its most likely the scope and not user error.
Andrew
2013 Excalibur Matrix 355 Xtra
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
Re: Matrix issues
Ya for sure. a few yep no more then the old bows. And some I'm sure can be atributed as user error even if they dont admit it same as old bows. I'm sure the matrix lineup us less forgiving then the long legged limb bows were.yooper_man wrote: I have been thinking about buying the Matrix 355, but probably won't since I have been hearing more and more limb and tip issues as well.
Andrew
Kandy-a.k.a Raid
Midge- a.k.a Micro 335
SSAS Spynal Tapps-Original
100 Grn 2" Shwacker
Boo threads
Don't wreck the fun house!
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SSAS Spynal Tapps-Original
100 Grn 2" Shwacker
Boo threads
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Re: Matrix issues
newbie wrote:Ya for sure. a few yep no more then the old bows. And some I'm sure can be atributed as user error even if they dont admit it same as old bows. I'm sure the matrix lineup us less forgiving then the long legged limb bows were.yooper_man wrote: I have been thinking about buying the Matrix 355, but probably won't since I have been hearing more and more limb and tip issues as well.
Andrew
Well time will tell. I heard Excalibur field tested the Matrix line before it was offered to the public. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, so I feel the issues they are informing us about are true.
When someone dry fires their crossbow they are always forthcoming to tell us all about the experience. To err is human as we all know.
I also heard people are not liking the Matrix triggers much either.
Andrew
2013 Excalibur Matrix 355 Xtra
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
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Re: Matrix issues
I can assure you the problem is being blown way out of proportion. We have sold thousands of Matrix models, all use the exact same limbs. We have had less limb tip failure on the Matrix percentage wise than our tried and true limbs( like you have on your Equinox) that we have made for 30 years which are the most reliable limbs on the market. The Matrix does not have a chronic limb tip failure problem. Most of the limb tips that did fail did so due to being dry fired which technically is not a warranty issue.I have been thinking about buying the Matrix 355, but probably won't since I have been hearing more and more limb and tip issues as well.
I just want to put this all into perspective, a problem appears on here and broad assumptions are made which the big picture does not support. The Matrix line of crossbows has been put through more testing than any other crossbow we have ever made and its reliability has proved remarkable. As always, anything can fail and if that happens we will look after our customers, plain and simple.
Peter
Re: Matrix issues
Sounds like you are basing your opinions on what you heard.yooper_man wrote:Well time will tell. I heard Excalibur field tested the Matrix line before it was offered to the public. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, so I feel the issues they are informing us about are true.
When someone dry fires their crossbow they are always forthcoming to tell us all about the experience. To err is human as we all know.
I also heard people are not liking the Matrix triggers much either.
Andrew
If what you heard is true I wonder why Excalibur is backordered until the end of the year? It might be because the Matrix is a big success!
Did you ever think that what you "heard" is untrue?
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Re: Matrix issues
X2. seems like the issues are shooter created not Mfg.Boo wrote:Sounds like you are basing your opinions on what you heard.yooper_man wrote:Well time will tell. I heard Excalibur field tested the Matrix line before it was offered to the public. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, so I feel the issues they are informing us about are true.
When someone dry fires their crossbow they are always forthcoming to tell us all about the experience. To err is human as we all know.
I also heard people are not liking the Matrix triggers much either.
Andrew
If what you heard is true I wonder why Excalibur is backordered until the end of the year? It might be because the Matrix is a big success!
Did you ever think that what you "heard" is untrue?
Y25, Axiom SMF
Matrix 380 Blackout
Turbo XLT. Stealth SS
Mission MXB 360
Free Men Dont Ask To Bear Arms.
Matrix 380 Blackout
Turbo XLT. Stealth SS
Mission MXB 360
Free Men Dont Ask To Bear Arms.
Re: Matrix issues
Folks,
I do not own a Matrix yet, I own an Equinox. But I will tell you this, "I will buy a Matrix crossbow any day without a worry whenever my finances are ready and able and will not think twice about it because I trust the company and the crossbows 100%".
Thanks,
Raymond
I do not own a Matrix yet, I own an Equinox. But I will tell you this, "I will buy a Matrix crossbow any day without a worry whenever my finances are ready and able and will not think twice about it because I trust the company and the crossbows 100%".
Thanks,
Raymond
Re: Matrix issues
Heres a good review MINE WORKS AWESOME AND I LOVE THE SCOPE THE CHEEK PIECE THE ADF THE CAMO COLOR GET THE PICTURE
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Re: Matrix issues
JPjunkie wrote:Heres a good review MINE WORKS AWESOME AND I LOVE THE SCOPE THE CHEEK PIECE THE ADF THE CAMO COLOR GET THE PICTURE
Some people just like stepping on rakes