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shifty
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hyper shock broadheads are hyper !@#$

Post by shifty »

Seen two deer shot by a buddy of mine with these heads . The blades didnt even open it was like he shot them with a field point. Later we looked at the broadhead and i tried to open it by sliding my fingers down and the O ring wouldnt roll back to open the blades,they just stayed closed.We have personaly banned these heads and strongly recomend nobody even try them. I could not believe how crappy these heads were . Both shots wre perfect broadside 15 yrd shots.It just reinforces my feelings on pop outs.
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Post by Sandman »

That's too bad....I am a firm believer in my Wasp 130 Cam-Locs as they have never let me down yet....

This is the doe that I spined a couple of weeks ago....

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Post by ALINALBERTA »

Did your buddy try shooting these heads thru a styrofoam target or anything like that prior to using them on a live animal. I would like to think I would have checked how they opened before hunting with them :?:

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Post by speedball »

nice hole sandman!!!, did she do a jig or did she fall on her face!! :twisted: :twisted:
gone huntin never to return................
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Post by shifty »

styrofoam and a deers vitals are two different things. Yes they did open in styrofoam ,no they did not open up in the deer. arrow stayed in the deer, no blood trail because it goes in like a field point and no deer iether wich makes me questions hypershocks claims.
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Post by ALINALBERTA »

Hi Shifty. Weird that the arrows would stay in the deer at that range,eh? I wonder if the arrow needs the blades on the broadhead to open up a channel to get your passthroughs :idea: .Well, Better luck to you guys on your next opportunity! :)

..Al.
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Post by ALINALBERTA »

Just reread your first post Shifty? Was your friend able to recover either of those deer he shot,would be tough tracking I bet if they did go down before they ran into the next county!

..Al.
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Post by maple »

Did you say TWO deer like this?? Something is definitely wrong.

I've used NAP Spitfire mechanicals and like them a lot.

Maple
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Post by Sandman »

speedball wrote:nice hole sandman!!!, did she do a jig or did she fall on her face!! :twisted: :twisted:
She went down like a sack of potatoes dropped off a truck~!

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Post by Deer Dave »

Sandman wrote:
speedball wrote:nice hole sandman!!!, did she do a jig or did she fall on her face!! :twisted: :twisted:
She went down like a sack of potatoes dropped off a truck~!

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I am also a firm believer in using the Wasp Broadheads SST Hammer 125 3 blade.......NEVER let me down!!!


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Post by Bill T »

You stated that they didn't open. How can you be sure of this if you recovered neither animal? I used them on Javelina and they always opened though they were very poor in the penetration due to the extra-wide cut the ones I used had. This design of broadhead will always leave a "puncture" hole on impact, this is a down side in my opinion.
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Post by Tom »

Bill T wrote:........ This design of broadhead will always leave a "puncture" hole on impact, this is a down side in my opinion.
This is as some might say, a real problem with mechanicals. Mechanicals use energy & resistance to open up inside the animal. This being said, it is usually a full 3/4" inside before full width of the blade is established.

With todays crossbows and most vertical bows there is more than enough KE with a well placed shot for a pass through of the arrow giving 1 good opening and one "puncture hole" opening for blood trails.
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Post by chris4570 »

Just like the Excalibur line of crossbows, simple works, and in my opinion simple is better. Fixed blade broadheads are all I will ever use. They work. Have proven themselves for longer than I have been alive. They leave a nice big hole going in and coming out, perfect for trailing.
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Post by Big John »

Hey Sandman:

I spined a doe the other day with my wasp Boss 3 blade 100 gr. and she didn't go 2 feet. Excellent holes on top and bottom front chest.
Fixed blade only for me.

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Post by shifty »

The bow he used was a vert bow ,a PSE thunderbolt set at 62 pounds and it should have been more then enough to do the job even with pop outs. and no the deer were not recoverd. Ifeel that the fact that the blades dont deploy until the head is 3/4 of an inch into the body is a big flaw. Better hope to the deer gods you get a pass through or good luck finding them.
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