Gimme a break! I heard on the news today, some guy complaining about his trip out of Lebanon. He was going on about no food, A/C and entertainment for the children on the ships leaving the country. Makes me sick. He should consider what the people left behind are worrying about - living to see tomorow!!!
I even heard that some of the people being evacutated are going to be seeking financial retribution for the way they were treated. I would love to be at the airport to welcome them home, with a crack in the head!
Had to rant. Some people don't know how lucky (spoiled) we are here in the western world.
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These days some people think, no matter where they are in the world, that this country has unlimited resources and can get them out of any predicament, immediately, in a manner that they find exceptable.
If this does not happen, immediately, in a manner that lives up to their expectations, the complaints are broadcaste, loudly, over and over.
Events connected with war are often unpredictable and impossible to plan for.
I'm sure those who were rescued in this event did not complain about the mode of transport, they were just happy to be off the beach;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/765004.stm
Transport in this event was not often very luxurious or even suitable for the task, either.
If this does not happen, immediately, in a manner that lives up to their expectations, the complaints are broadcaste, loudly, over and over.
Events connected with war are often unpredictable and impossible to plan for.
I'm sure those who were rescued in this event did not complain about the mode of transport, they were just happy to be off the beach;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/765004.stm
Transport in this event was not often very luxurious or even suitable for the task, either.
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I read today where many people are upset at P.M. Harper for diverting his airbus to pick up stranded Canadian's saying it was merely a photo op. I'll bet the 100 passenger's he picked up don't see it that way. Damned if you do, damned if you don't! Martin would have sent 10 of his own ship's, charged us 800 million and would be praised as a hero.
TO start this off I want to say that in no way am I a biggot or rasist. I would like to know if the people complaining are actually Canadian Residents or just hold a Canadian Citizen and hold a Canadian Passport. I believe that (and I have heard that over half the people trying to get Canada to evacuate them) live in that country on a full time bassis and never planned on coming back to Canada. They do not pay taxes in Canada and have not for many years.
If they want to have first class traveling, then have them pay for it. IF they want an emergancy evacuation, then the Canadian government can pay for it and remove them the best way posible and anyway they feel is right. If they do not feel that this method is acceptable, then they should not have accepted the ride and let someone else, that did not get his/her seat, the ride out of danger.
I guess those people did not feel to threatened.
If they want to have first class traveling, then have them pay for it. IF they want an emergancy evacuation, then the Canadian government can pay for it and remove them the best way posible and anyway they feel is right. If they do not feel that this method is acceptable, then they should not have accepted the ride and let someone else, that did not get his/her seat, the ride out of danger.
I guess those people did not feel to threatened.
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We were talking about this at my office today. What do these people expect; do they want to be evacuated out of a war zone or not?! I heard one evacuee quoted on CBC Radio as saying that after the "terrible" boat ride to Cyrprus, she wishes she would have stayed in Lebanon. I guess the "war zone" isn't so bad, is it?
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I understand a lot of those folks actually have full time residence in Lebanon. Many are dual citizens.
Wouldn't that make their HOST country mainly responsible for the cost, if not the actual arranging of their transportation?
Anyway, apart from that, let's see now.....go to a country where is has recently been plagued with war or at least extreme political unrest, a country divided into extreme factions, in fact one faction Canada has declared to be a terrorist organization, (Hezbollah), that sounds about where a sensible tourist would go for a nice family vacation. (If they wanted grandpa and grandma in Lebanon to meet the Canadian grandkids, maybe a ticket to travel to Canada and have the grandparents do the visiting here would be more sensible?)
It reminds me of the boneheads who try to sail a bath tub across the Atlantic, then expect the rest of society to foot the bill of sending ships helicopters or airplanes halfway across to pick them up when they encounter trouble. Or those who want to walk to the North Pole and have to be rescued at huge expense.
No doubt they didn't ASK for the disaster, but they ignored the risks and now want to blame someone else and have someone else pay the bill.
Wouldn't that make their HOST country mainly responsible for the cost, if not the actual arranging of their transportation?
Anyway, apart from that, let's see now.....go to a country where is has recently been plagued with war or at least extreme political unrest, a country divided into extreme factions, in fact one faction Canada has declared to be a terrorist organization, (Hezbollah), that sounds about where a sensible tourist would go for a nice family vacation. (If they wanted grandpa and grandma in Lebanon to meet the Canadian grandkids, maybe a ticket to travel to Canada and have the grandparents do the visiting here would be more sensible?)
It reminds me of the boneheads who try to sail a bath tub across the Atlantic, then expect the rest of society to foot the bill of sending ships helicopters or airplanes halfway across to pick them up when they encounter trouble. Or those who want to walk to the North Pole and have to be rescued at huge expense.
No doubt they didn't ASK for the disaster, but they ignored the risks and now want to blame someone else and have someone else pay the bill.
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Well said!!!Hi5 wrote:I understand a lot of those folks actually have full time residence in Lebanon. Many are dual citizens.
Wouldn't that make their HOST country mainly responsible for the cost, if not the actual arranging of their transportation?
Anyway, apart from that, let's see now.....go to a country where is has recently been plagued with war or at least extreme political unrest, a country divided into extreme factions, in fact one faction Canada has declared to be a terrorist organization, (Hezbollah), that sounds about where a sensible tourist would go for a nice family vacation. (If they wanted grandpa and grandma in Lebanon to meet the Canadian grandkids, maybe a ticket to travel to Canada and have the grandparents do the visiting here would be more sensible?)
It reminds me of the boneheads who try to sail a bath tub across the Atlantic, then expect the rest of society to foot the bill of sending ships helicopters or airplanes halfway across to pick them up when they encounter trouble. Or those who want to walk to the North Pole and have to be rescued at huge expense.
No doubt they didn't ASK for the disaster, but they ignored the risks and now want to blame someone else and have someone else pay the bill.
On top of all that the residents of that area that hold Canadian passports keep saying (on news reports) that their Government, meaning Canadian, is not organised.
It must be nice to opt for the best out but why is the "not organised" directed to Canada and not where they reside.
The OHIP rules (medical coverage) state that if you haven't resided in Ontario for the last (I believe) 270 days or so, then you are not covered for a 3 month period. They have been exempted from this rule.
Canadian residents should come first.
It must be nice to opt for the best out but why is the "not organised" directed to Canada and not where they reside.
The OHIP rules (medical coverage) state that if you haven't resided in Ontario for the last (I believe) 270 days or so, then you are not covered for a 3 month period. They have been exempted from this rule.
Canadian residents should come first.
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Here is an article from a local paper that burns my butt. 
Hundreds express their rage
Local Lebanese outraged over federal response to evacuation
Trevor Wilhelm, Windsor Star
Published: Thursday, July 20, 2006
A Windsor man who joined a rally Wednesday to denounce Israeli attacks on Lebanon says four family members were killed in air raids in southern Lebanon earlier in the day, but that his wife and infant son survived.
Mazen Samhat said his uncle Moussa Darwish, and his uncle's wife and two children from Montreal, who were stranded in southern Lebanon, were killed.
The bombing occurred half a block from where Samhat's wife Ina and seven-month-old son Mohamad, who arrived in Lebanon June 6, were hunkered down.
"If I could cry right now, I'd be on the floor," said Samhat, 28. "But my family needs me more than anything, so I have to be strong for them. I need to stay strong and focused and worry about the rest of my family."
He said he learned of the deaths while watching the news. When he saw the last name Darwish, the name he also goes by in Lebanon, his heart sank because he thought it was his wife and child who had died.
He tried to call them but the phone lines were down. He eventually got hold of another uncle in Beirut who told him what happened.
Now he must mourn his lost loved ones, and worry about those who are still in harm's way.
"Anyone in my situation is no more than a paralyzed person, unable to do anything," said Samhat.
Hundreds of Lebanese-Canadians, including Samhat, poured into Windsor's streets Wednesday to express their rage and sadness over what they also see as a slow government response in getting people out and demanding a ceasefire.
The crowds, escorted by police officers on motorcycles, carried signs showing pictures of babies with casts on their legs and the battered faces of dead children.
The rally turned tense briefly when one man threw his hands in the air and screamed "Hezbollah, Hezbollah. I'm never scared. My country will win. Hezbollah will win."
A number of others in the march grabbed the man's arms and restrained him until he stopped screaming.
When questioned after, he wouldn't give his name or talk about Hezbollah.
"I support Lebanon and Lebanese resistance," he said over and over.
A few other Hezbollah supporters were there, but they also wouldn't talk about the terrorist group when questioned.
The protesters marched for nearly an hour down Wyandotte Street East and into the downtown core before assembling at Charles Clark Square.
© The Windsor Star 2006
Hundreds express their rage
Local Lebanese outraged over federal response to evacuation
Trevor Wilhelm, Windsor Star
Published: Thursday, July 20, 2006
A Windsor man who joined a rally Wednesday to denounce Israeli attacks on Lebanon says four family members were killed in air raids in southern Lebanon earlier in the day, but that his wife and infant son survived.
Mazen Samhat said his uncle Moussa Darwish, and his uncle's wife and two children from Montreal, who were stranded in southern Lebanon, were killed.
The bombing occurred half a block from where Samhat's wife Ina and seven-month-old son Mohamad, who arrived in Lebanon June 6, were hunkered down.
"If I could cry right now, I'd be on the floor," said Samhat, 28. "But my family needs me more than anything, so I have to be strong for them. I need to stay strong and focused and worry about the rest of my family."
He said he learned of the deaths while watching the news. When he saw the last name Darwish, the name he also goes by in Lebanon, his heart sank because he thought it was his wife and child who had died.
He tried to call them but the phone lines were down. He eventually got hold of another uncle in Beirut who told him what happened.
Now he must mourn his lost loved ones, and worry about those who are still in harm's way.
"Anyone in my situation is no more than a paralyzed person, unable to do anything," said Samhat.
Hundreds of Lebanese-Canadians, including Samhat, poured into Windsor's streets Wednesday to express their rage and sadness over what they also see as a slow government response in getting people out and demanding a ceasefire.
The crowds, escorted by police officers on motorcycles, carried signs showing pictures of babies with casts on their legs and the battered faces of dead children.
The rally turned tense briefly when one man threw his hands in the air and screamed "Hezbollah, Hezbollah. I'm never scared. My country will win. Hezbollah will win."
A number of others in the march grabbed the man's arms and restrained him until he stopped screaming.
When questioned after, he wouldn't give his name or talk about Hezbollah.
"I support Lebanon and Lebanese resistance," he said over and over.
A few other Hezbollah supporters were there, but they also wouldn't talk about the terrorist group when questioned.
The protesters marched for nearly an hour down Wyandotte Street East and into the downtown core before assembling at Charles Clark Square.
© The Windsor Star 2006
This is the part that got me.
The rally turned tense briefly when one man threw his hands in the air and screamed "Hezbollah, Hezbollah. I'm never scared. My country will win. Hezbollah will win."
A number of others in the march grabbed the man's arms and restrained him until he stopped screaming.
When questioned after, he wouldn't give his name or talk about Hezbollah.
"I support Lebanon and Lebanese resistance," he said over and over.
A few other Hezbollah supporters were there, but they also wouldn't talk about the terrorist group when questioned.
The rally turned tense briefly when one man threw his hands in the air and screamed "Hezbollah, Hezbollah. I'm never scared. My country will win. Hezbollah will win."
A number of others in the march grabbed the man's arms and restrained him until he stopped screaming.
When questioned after, he wouldn't give his name or talk about Hezbollah.
"I support Lebanon and Lebanese resistance," he said over and over.
A few other Hezbollah supporters were there, but they also wouldn't talk about the terrorist group when questioned.
So he lives here and he supports a terrorist group.Farmer wrote:This is the part that got me.
The rally turned tense briefly when one man threw his hands in the air and screamed "Hezbollah, Hezbollah. I'm never scared. My country will win. Hezbollah will win."
A number of others in the march grabbed the man's arms and restrained him until he stopped screaming.
When questioned after, he wouldn't give his name or talk about Hezbollah.
"I support Lebanon and Lebanese resistance," he said over and over.
A few other Hezbollah supporters were there, but they also wouldn't talk about the terrorist group when questioned.
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Someone saves your ass and you want to complain??!!! Why not get your heads out of your arses! Maybe next time you won't be rescued!
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