Horton 2007 copies Excalibur crossbow?!!!?

Matthias72 · Post by **Matthias72** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:38 am

Watch here!!!:
http://www.crossbow.com/uploads/downloa ... alog-2.pdf

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:52 am

Looks like they are realizing there is a market for a recurve crossbow. I doubt if it will match Excalibur for quality & accuracy, though.

wildwindom · Post by **wildwindom** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:01 am

wabi wrote:Looks like they are realizing there is a market for a recurve crossbow. I doubt if it will match Excalibur for quality & accuracy, though.

DITTO

Matthias72 · Post by **Matthias72** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:10 am

Wildwindom what means "DITTO"?

Wabi, probably you have reason, but DP2 laminated multilayer limbs is a modern technology. We will see.

groundpounder · Post by **groundpounder** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:14 am

Did you notice the "string stumpers" though. Looks like what some of you came up with not long ago with the rubber stops for the string.

Matthias72 · Post by **Matthias72** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:17 am

Yes. I know well them

(I make a particular kind for Excalibur crossbows with success:
http://cacciaebalestra.altervista.org/I ... ments.html )

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:44 am

Matthias72 wrote:
Wabi, probably you have reason, but DP2 laminated multilayer limbs is a modern technology. We will see.

Unless they have improved their trigger/latch system it will probably have a poor trigger pull and the bottom release claws do nothing to promote accuracy. I've owned Horton compounds and they were not that great.

ComfyBear · Post by **ComfyBear** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:51 am

Matthias72 wrote:Wildwindom what means "DITTO"?

DITTO means:

Me too, I have the same opinion.
I think and feel the same as you do.

SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP

Did you notice that although the powerstroke is 1/4" longer on the Hortons, that the speed rating (350 & 330 fps) for the 225# and 200# respectively, are the same as Excalibur's Exomax & Exocet 200, when using the same weight (350grain) bolts?

However on the 175#, although the powerstroke is only 14", the speed (310fps) is the same as the Exocet 175#, which has a 15 1/2" powerstroke, and that rating is when using with a heavier (406 grain) bolt.

How is that possible?

Either their models use different parts/limbs or their claims/ratings are erroneous.

Matthias72 · Post by **Matthias72** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:15 am

Very interesting question!

It could be possible only if the integer surface (below the traction curve) changes during the traction: so until nearby 14 inches Horton limbs store more energy, after Excalibur limbs surpass Horton, as I show on this drawing (not in proportion):

navaman · Post by **navaman** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:04 am

i think Bill T should be flatterd and honored that they would want to follow his lead

shurite44 · Post by **shurite44** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:55 am

I would not call it a copy really.

I found a mistake in the arrow ballistic page, anyone else see it?

Heck of a nice brochure, but you can have horton xbow's, I will stick with the excal.

I think xbow manufacturer's are missing the boat on what hunter's really want. I think a short light xbow is what they should be going for. Heavy draw weight and short power stroke is the ticket in my opinion. Something like the paradox in a 200# draw would get my checkbook out.

ALINALBERTA · Post by **ALINALBERTA** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:56 am

I must be the only one not able to open this link.

When I click on it, it says something about generating a error and will be closed by windows. Could not launch acrobat reader. Any ideas what is happening here?

Thanks,Al.

JR · Post by JR » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:16 am

I'm getting the same error. Could it be because I'm running IE7?

-Jason

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:24 am

I like it, but, I like this community and I want to stick with a Canadian product like Excalibur

navaman · Post by **navaman** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:33 am

JR, i know it's not related but that's the coolest avatar i've seen on this forum