4" or 5" vanes for carbon?

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rm
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4" or 5" vanes for carbon?

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Hi Folks, just picked up a new Phoenix package this year and although I'm impressed with the performance I want to go to carbon bolts for next season.

I see the Excalibur ones in the store are Easton shafts and come in either 4 or 5 inch vanes. My question is which do you think will fly best with broadheads?

I've been using the Wasp Boss SSI 100grain broadheads if that makes a difference in choice.

Great site by the way with a lot of good reading! Thanks in advance for any opinions.
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2" Blazers....
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DITTO THAT 2" Blazers with a 4 degree offset.
1 CUSTOM EXOMAX
1 CUSTOM EXOCET 200
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Post by Downunder »

Why the 2" Blazers ?, what is the difference in performance to the 4 or 5" vanes ?.... I'm new to crossbow hunting so lots to learn and this is a great site for it :-)
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Post by Farmer »

2 inch Blazers give you the same steering effect as the 4 or 5 inch vane with less weight ( giving you better foc /maybe a bit of speed ) and less drag from the air ( flatter trajectory / maybe a bit more speed ). they also stand up to a lot of abuse without curling or ripping .

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When I had my Excal Pheonix the best combo I found was Beman Thunderbolt's with 2" Blazer's and the carbon half moon nock's grinded flat.
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Post by M&M »

just wondering if these 2 inch vanes are so much better why aren't they being put on bolts made for retail I would definetly give them a try but I don't build my own bolts and shoot what is offered at my dealer. M&M
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M&M wrote:just wondering if these 2 inch vanes are so much better why aren't they being put on bolts made for retail I would definetly give them a try but I don't build my own bolts and shoot what is offered at my dealer. M&M
Good question... :?
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Post by wabi »

Don't know why they aren't used on commercial arrows. They're all I use on my arrows, and they give great performance!
You might want to shop around and order some "custom" arrows.
http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/phpBB2 ... hp?t=20568
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M&M wrote:just wondering if these 2 inch vanes are so much better why aren't they being put on bolts made for retail I would definetly give them a try but I don't build my own bolts and shoot what is offered at my dealer. M&M
If you have a half way decent dealer (pro shop type) he can fletch them any way that you want.
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Thanks for the opinions Guys, much appretiated!
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I'm experimenting with blazers again ... :)

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Post by Cossack »

The real advantage of 2" Blazers (other than their toughness) is that they (can) give your arrows a higher forward of center ratio (FOC) by keeping the weight off the back of the arrow. I definitely noticed a big change in accuracy. However, I started with raw Gold Tip Lazer II bolts and installed 110 gr brass inserts rather than the much lighter aluminum inserts. The 2" Blazers installed and 100gr Slick Tricks give me an FOC over 20%.
Don't know what inserts the Eastons come with or if you can buy heavier inserts for them tho.
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positioning of blazer vanes

Post by Michael Stogre »

Cossack or anyone who uses blazer vanes:

What have you found to be the optimal placement on a 20" Gold tip Laser II
bolt for the blazer vanes. I am beginning to use them and would like
any advice people can give re fletching with the blazers. Presently,
I am trying 1" from the nock end. Is this okay or should it be more like
1 1/4"?

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Post by Michael Stogre »

By the way M& M check the Cabela archery catelogue and you will see
many commercial arrows fletched with 2" blazers.

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