heavy recoil

bait pile willie · Post by **bait pile willie** » Sat May 09, 2009 8:00 am

my mossberg 535 with 31/2' shells kicks like a mule.the only good thing is you dont have to shoot it too often.would having the barrel ported reduce significant recoilt to justify the cost or would it just reduce muzzel jump? would a sims recoil pad help overstock one? maybe 3" shells are the answer.

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Sat May 09, 2009 8:17 am

bait pile willie wrote:maybe 3" shells are the answer.

Willie, it's been my observation that many gunners and riflemen alike are in general badly afflicted with a sort of mental disease called magnumitis.

While it's symptoms are many and varied, magnumitis always manifests itself in this strange (and unverified) suggestion: that bigger is always better!

Some of the side effects of magnumitis are:

Bruised shoulders
Ringing ears
Terrible flinching
Empty wallets

I know I'm treading on controversial ground here, but it's always been my belief that you can't kill 'em deader than dead with a magnum ... but you certainly can do yourself and your shooting ability a lot of damage with one.

Just remember that many game populations in many areas were eradicated long before anything as potent as many of our "magnums" was in general use.

All that said, a really good recoil pad can make a considerable difference in perceived recoil.

Personally, I don't like the horrific muzzle blast and noise produced by porting, but that's just me.

Take all of this for what it's worth!

PS: I killed my biggest turkey ever (28 lbs. and a beard and spurs that wouldn't quit) with a 2 & 3/4" shell, and a traditional full choke, with an ordinary pump gun, at 40 yards. Can be done!

Cossack · Post by **Cossack** » Sat May 09, 2009 8:40 am

I quit shooting mine. The extra payload isn't worth the pounding my shoulder took. Having shot birds at 45 and 50 yards with Winchester 3" tungsten loads I don't think any more is necessary. BTW a Limbsaver butt pad will help some.

TPM · Post by **TPM** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:02 am

Well said Grizz. I always refer to it as "Magnum Mentality". It has plagued the rifle world for decades and it now infects all shooting apparatus. I used to hunt with a guy who, after several years of shooting deer at close range in hardwoods, decided to buy a rifle in 35 Whelan (basically a 30-06 necked up to 35 cal.). His thinking was "There's now way they're going anywhere after being hit by that!". There also wasn't a whole lot of good meat left.

The 3 1/2" craze started when steel shot was the only no-tox alternative to lead and it was being mandated in a lot of areas. The theory was that if you loose the ballistic-per-pellet performance using steel instead of lead just load more pellets. That was true and it helped the killing power of crappy early steel loads but things have changed since then. The performance of steel shotshells has improved greatly over the years and there are other no-tox alternatives that actually perform better than lead (if you can afford them

). The best way to reduce recoil in a 3 1/2" gun is to shoot 2 3/4" or 3" shells. There is nothing you can hunt that can't be cleanly killed by a 3" shell. There are very few waterfowl hunters I've known who even got through their first box of 3 1/2" shells before switching back to 3". In my opinion the increased cost and increased recoil of the 3 1/2" shell aren't worth the slight ballistic advantage.
As for porting, it will reduce muzzle jump a bit but it won't reduce in-line recoil (the painful part!). It will also reduce the number of guys who will hunt with you as the increased noise for people on either side of you can be painful. My advice? Get a good recoil pad and switch to 3".

hikerman · Post by **hikerman** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:18 am

This was probably one of the most informative posts about shot gun loads and porting that I have read and seeking info since January.

That way I dig this forum.

Far better than the rest!

saxman · Post by **saxman** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:20 am

My 835 ulti mag is ported and with 3.5's there is NO taming them.
I switched to the 3"

I call it the land cannon

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:41 am

saxman wrote:I call it the land cannon

"FIRE!"

dutchhunter · Post by **dutchhunter** » Sat May 09, 2009 10:14 am

i have a 535 as well thy do kick like a mule but only whe target shooing .i shot a nice bird the other day and never even heard the gun let alone felt the recoil .i just love this gun DUTCH

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Sat May 09, 2009 10:23 am

well said grizz

groundpounder · Post by **groundpounder** » Sat May 09, 2009 10:43 am

And I've always liked the 10 Ga. I had an Ithaca Mag 10 for a while and got stupid and traded it for another rifle. I love the rifle but miss the Ithaca. Couldn't come up with the bucks for another one but purchased the New England Arms single shot 10 Ga to get me by. Lot of difference in kick between the two. But I have learned this, they do not kick near as bad when you are shooting at game versus targets

dutchhunter · Post by **dutchhunter** » Sat May 09, 2009 1:15 pm

i to love the 10g .the first turkey gun i had built was a H&R singel shot 10g i had rifled sights welded on her .boy o boy would she ever shot .but the recoil was amazing you did not want to have your shoulder up agains a tree when ou pulled the trigger it would surly break the bones .it was crazy . i am loking at an SP10 right now at are local dealers it is a used one the new ones are priced like thy are made of gold well over 2 k if i can save up some more pennys i am have this gun DUTCH

Pydpiper · Post by **Pydpiper** » Sat May 09, 2009 1:48 pm

The SP-10 has no recoil in comparison to a 3 1/2 pump 12 gage, it is also significantly softer than a 2 3/4" 12 gage.
10 lbs of gas gun eats the recoil up before it gets a chance to make it's way to the shooter.
I have a SP-10, nice one too, ported and polished..

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Sat May 09, 2009 1:53 pm

Pydpiper wrote: I have a SP-10, nice one too, ported and polished..

that sounds like the one boo used to have

Pydpiper · Post by **Pydpiper** » Sat May 09, 2009 1:56 pm

mikej wrote:
Pydpiper wrote: I have a SP-10, nice one too, ported and polished..
that sounds like the one boo used to have

Shhh.. I think he forgot I have it..

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Sat May 09, 2009 2:22 pm

Pydpiper wrote:
mikej wrote:
Pydpiper wrote: I have a SP-10, nice one too, ported and polished..
that sounds like the one boo used to have
Shhh.. I think he forgot I have it..

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