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DirtyGun
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What a shame

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Well...nice buck down.

But, he was hit by a car. I didn't hit it. A friend of a friend did and it somehow ended up in my garage, after a police officer shot it SIX times to put it down.

Salvaging what we can. Hind quarters are pretty much done.

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HMMmmm 6 times, guessing the deer was still alive after impact and moving around a lot?
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prossbow wrote:HMMmmm 6 times, guessing the deer was still alive after impact and moving around a lot?
Deer was still barely coherent and couldn't move its rear end. Back two legs are obviously broken. I know the officers are trained to 'shoot until it stops moving', but, I still think it could have been easier.
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I have seen how well some of our officers shoot . :shock:
Six shots is good . :)
Mind you I have shot against some and they can shoot quite well . :)
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That is a shame. A real nice deer there.
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one well placed bullet behind the shoulder would have done the job :roll: well at least ya have a nice set of antlers.........bob

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bob1961 wrote:one well placed bullet behind the shoulder would have done the job :roll: well at least ya have a nice set of antlers.........bob

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Actually...managed quite a bit of meat out of him. The left hind quarters were pounded by the car and were unsalvageable, but, the right was okay. Backstraps and loins were intact and the right shoulder was fine. The neck meat was also fine.

I pulled four .40 S&Ws out of his left shoulder and two more further back. Didn't even come close to hitting a major organ.

This deer suffered greatly when it died. And, that's a shame.
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I hate to see these shoot-outs on TV news and the gunman is in the hospital or in custody . . .the gunman should be in the morgue. I suppose no matter how much you train, it's different when you actually have someone shooting at you. I like the idea of shooting until they stop breathing.

That's a dandy buck. Too bad.
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Should have a big 'shout out' to TPM and VixChix who dropped by today with a grinder as a loaner. It proved to me that my wife's KitchenAid stand mixer actually serves a cool purpose. :wink:

Will get it back to you folks after it's cleaned up...with the distinct possibility of something for your freezer with it. :wink:
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from someone on the inside.. Most cant hit the side of a house with 20 rounds :lol: :lol: Firearms week was hell for most in our class so I believe it took him 6 rounds of not more. All you have to do is walk up and put 1 behind the shoulder and end it quickly.

sumner, its different when someone's shooting back and you basically firing "luck" shots. I love the range and wish we trained more since some really need it.

nice buck and thats the way most of the good ones die:( well other than 6 rounds from a glock :lol:
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crazyfarmer wrote:from someone on the inside.. Most cant hit the side of a house with 20 rounds :lol: :lol: Firearms week was hell for most in our class so I believe it took him 6 rounds of not more. All you have to do is walk up and put 1 behind the shoulder and end it quickly.

sumner, its different when someone's shooting back and you basically firing "luck" shots. I love the range and wish we trained more since some really need it.

nice buck and thats the way most of the good ones die:( well other than 6 rounds from a glock :lol:
I have seen some of them shoot...since I used to work for the local police service in the area as a civilian. The vast majority of them never touched a gun, let alone a rather powerful handgun, before they became a police officer and the majority of them rarely train unless they absolutely have to for qualifying. I can really say that less than 10 per cent of the officers I ever saw shoot could be considered 'marksmen'.

I don't think they should all be 'gun afficianados', but, knowing how to use the tool that may save their life some day properly may be a good idea, not to mention having basic knowledge regarding a call that happens often this time of year. I never really understood why there were never basic guidlines for humanely dispatching an animal included on training days. After all, it is a call that police officers experience, even though they have better things to do and more important calls to attend to.
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The majority of our law enforcement officers do not hunt so they fall back on their training and that is to shoot for centre mass. And without the knowledge of hunting and understanding of bleeding out the first thought is to shoot until the animal stops moving .. I beleive that this is done with the best intentions in mind and that is to stop the suffering of the animal. Although the "optics" of the situation do not look good in the end.

Great looking buck DG.

Just my opinion from up here in the cheap seats ..
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Ryan, Good for you for taking the buck home and making the best of it. He was a good size and it would have been a shame to just have left him by the road. You should to be uber-proud of your wife for her being ok with it all too. She's a gem!

BTW, I think the buck's rack would look great as a euro-mount!
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Sorry to hear about the situation and how it all went down, but glad to hear that there was a somewhat happy ending.

One thing that I did want to say about the officer is that we shouldn't bust his chops too much(maybe a little) :) . I'd put more blame on the 40 S&W ammunition that he was using. It is a great round for "humans". It wasn't designed for the thicker width bodies, denser muscle mass, moderately thick hide, and heavier skeletal structure that deer naturally have. Not to mention their tough stamina.

Dirty Gun, my hat is off to you and your helpers, by setting a great example of what most hunters out there would've done, wanting to see a clean death to this animal and then harvest as much of the meat as possible. 8)
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Gotta say...tenderloins be tenderloins...and MAN WERE THEY GOOD! :D

Ummmmmm...TPM...VixChix...could I drop by your place and pick up that section of backstrap I dropped off? :wink:

If you get the chance to salvage a 'roadkill deer'...put the time in and do it. The meat is just as good, if you know what you're doing, as if you harvested it yourself. Waste nothing...so glad my Grandfather taught me that.
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