My heart goes out to the families of both these fellas.
sad way to start a new year ( OT )
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Sad story to be sure!!
My heart goes out to the families of both these fellas.
My heart goes out to the families of both these fellas.
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Re: sad way to start a new year ( OT )
My condolences to you, Dutch, and everyone else who has lost someone to drug abuse. Have a family member that has gone through hell the past few years due to an addicted spouse. Hasn't resulted in any death, but I can begin to see the effect addiction has on a family.
While it is indeed a tragedy, I do feel the need to set the record straight as it seems quite a few here are misinformed about the drug industry and incentives. While there was indeed a hand-in-hand relationship between Big Pharma and MD's some time ago that directly influenced prescribing habits, this practice is all but history at this point. Legislature has been in place for quite some time now that completely forbids any sort of incentives from Big Pharma to physicians or pharmacists... even something as simple as a giant Viagra pen is now illegal.
Further more, the majority of abused drugs on the market are now un-branded generics, and have been for some time. Incentives were only given to MD's for prescribing branded products, not generics.
Not to sound cold-hearted, but while I do physician prescribing habits are a large part of the issue, we also cannot forget the responsibility of the individual in this matter. Addiction is a disease and require attention like any other -- while there are many who fail at coming clean, there are also many who are able to overcome it.
"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." -- Ronald Reagan
While it is indeed a tragedy, I do feel the need to set the record straight as it seems quite a few here are misinformed about the drug industry and incentives. While there was indeed a hand-in-hand relationship between Big Pharma and MD's some time ago that directly influenced prescribing habits, this practice is all but history at this point. Legislature has been in place for quite some time now that completely forbids any sort of incentives from Big Pharma to physicians or pharmacists... even something as simple as a giant Viagra pen is now illegal.
Further more, the majority of abused drugs on the market are now un-branded generics, and have been for some time. Incentives were only given to MD's for prescribing branded products, not generics.
Not to sound cold-hearted, but while I do physician prescribing habits are a large part of the issue, we also cannot forget the responsibility of the individual in this matter. Addiction is a disease and require attention like any other -- while there are many who fail at coming clean, there are also many who are able to overcome it.
"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." -- Ronald Reagan
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Re: sad way to start a new year ( OT )
i blame no one but the user , in the end it is thy who made the choice .my only thoughts with this post was for the kids that lost fathers in the last two weeks . and all i am asking is for prayers for the kids that have to go thru life with this knowledge .can you imaging being in school at 12 or 15 years old and having to answer questions about how your dad is no longer with you becoues of this .i have seen first hand the effects of pills on many familys over the last few years and is seems to be getting worse every day . sorry for the rant DUTCH
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Dutch,
My prayers go out for the kids, and a part of that prayer is that they will place the blame for their loss where it belongs (on drug abuse) and learn not to make the same bad choices.
Our society if full of drug addicts and alcoholics, but a few of them figure it out before it kills them. I'm here to write this.
My prayers go out for the kids, and a part of that prayer is that they will place the blame for their loss where it belongs (on drug abuse) and learn not to make the same bad choices.
Our society if full of drug addicts and alcoholics, but a few of them figure it out before it kills them. I'm here to write this.
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Sorry to hear about the loss for the kids. Drug addiction is rampant. Friend of mine had knee replacement at 49 ears of age. Took pain killers to help with recovery. He got so addicted to the pain killers he stopped working. Died at 53 of cancer after only 2 days in the hospital. The pain killers were so powerful he missed the pain of cancer and wasn't diagnosed.
My wife's a nurse and a receptionist. She deals with the addicted every day. As they DEMAND their renewal they tend to be quite loud and unreasonable. Little wonder the doctor writes the script, he doesn't need the hassle either. I just wonder why they're so quick to prescribe such powerful, addictive pharmaceuticals.
Dan O.
My wife's a nurse and a receptionist. She deals with the addicted every day. As they DEMAND their renewal they tend to be quite loud and unreasonable. Little wonder the doctor writes the script, he doesn't need the hassle either. I just wonder why they're so quick to prescribe such powerful, addictive pharmaceuticals.
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Re: sad way to start a new year ( OT )
Some sad stories here.
Addiction can be complicated and difficult for many to comprehend. It is the tip of the iceberg, the real issue, and often not apparent to observers.
Despite the increasing issues with prescription drugs, alcohol remains the most devastating of all. Beware of the dragon, folks. It starts many of our youth wandering down the wrong road without the skills to turn around before it's too late. Pay attention parents. If you have a friend who may be hurting, talk to them.
Addiction can be complicated and difficult for many to comprehend. It is the tip of the iceberg, the real issue, and often not apparent to observers.
Despite the increasing issues with prescription drugs, alcohol remains the most devastating of all. Beware of the dragon, folks. It starts many of our youth wandering down the wrong road without the skills to turn around before it's too late. Pay attention parents. If you have a friend who may be hurting, talk to them.