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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by Mister B » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:43 pm

By the way my contact was a man in Quebec named Michel Blais you can reach him at. [email protected]
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by M&M » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:40 am

Secret - besides my exocet I also own a horton and a ten point and my brother owns a ten point and you don't have to shoot an arrow to unload or decock it
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by Dash » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:24 am

Mr B,
Thanks for the post mate, I was interested to hear of a excal member try one of these.
You were saying you checked the bows accuracy after testing this. Good to hear it doesn't pull the sight out of wack with the shock of release. And also that it can be released to uncock the bow. There's two of my questions answered.
Is there much shock when fired ?

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by Cossack » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:25 am

One of the reasons I purchases (several) Excals is because they have no DF device.
That way I can easily let the bow down, even in the dark. Having found a partially dislodged arrow in (my compound CB), which likely would have resulted in a dryfire, (past the DFD but not against the string), I check arrow seating regularly while hunting. A bow with DFD can be dryfired by failing to insert the arrow all the way back to string or misaligned nock. More mechanical things means more mechanical things to go wrong. I treat a bow as any other lethal implement: carefully. Keep it simple, keep thinking.
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by crazyfarmer » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:04 pm

its nice to have the option... but one reason I like the excals is because of less moving parts that can break or etc. I have never been a fan of the dryfire prevention tools on bows. But this one seems a little different. Hopefully it works out well for all those whom try it. Goodluck

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by Raymond » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:39 pm

Hey Folks,
Are these sold in Canada also? If so, who is selling them?
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by foofoo » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:53 pm

just a string catcher? pricey for about what looks like 3 $ in parts.

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by shaftthrower » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:48 am

Rufus wrote:I am going to buy one and take the string stoppers and pads off to get the weight off the front of the bow.
Sounds like the way to go to me. And the price is comparable to the STS. Is there a link to purchase from? Thanks for the review!

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by ComfyBear » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:07 pm

Click the link below to see this mechanism in action.

Video - ARC-INTER Stop Dryfire mechanisms
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by foofoo » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:57 pm

shaftthrower wrote:
Rufus wrote:I am going to buy one and take the string stoppers and pads off to get the weight off the front of the bow.
Sounds like the way to go to me. And the price is comparable to the STS. Is there a link to purchase from? Thanks for the review!
i shoot my vixen with no pads or sts stoppers but my equinox and vortex have both. the sts does wonders for vibration and sound somewhat . i dont know if excalibur says its o.k. to run there heavier bows without the limb pads. the sts systems are 49$ or less if you make your own. the dry fire is 70$. i emailed them and they said there not available. there gonna list 100 of them on ebay but no set date.gonna try one but it doesnt replace sts or dis pads. they havent got back to me on what the weight of there invention is .

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by Hi5 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:19 pm

Thanks ComfyBear for posting that.

It looks like a simple idea. I'm very carefull and so far haven't had a dryfire. Still, if it is something that works well and doesn't create other problems, it might be worth spending a few bucks.

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by Tom » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:24 pm

Mister B wrote:Yes, I tested it and it was flawless on my Exocet 200. I also shot it to make sure it didn't alter my arrow flight. Typical for an Excal it was as dead accurate as it was before. And, the release lever is right above the safety and very easy to reach with the thumb while pressing the trigger with your finger to decock it as usual.
It just saves me having use cotton balls to check for limb damage, having to replace damaged STS bumpers, and keeps me from having to change the string (which I do just in case a strand broke under my serving) should I have another brain fart and dryfire it again.
The trouble is, it sounds like you are going to rely on this device. Yes it worked as tested, but it is a mechanical device and a mechanical device will fail, you just never know when.

People the only safe way to handle a crossbow or gun is to always pay attention to what you are doing. Always follow the same steps in cocking, loading your crossbow and you will be safe. Many people feel that there is a need for these devices, but there is not a need. IF you need one then you are unsafe and should not handle a crossbow. Plain and simple, a crossbow is not a toy, they are a dangerous hunting tool that can hurt someone if you are not paying attention all the time. I have known and hunted with many hunters with crossbows (5 close to 30 years experience each) and non have had a dry-fire.

Sorry if my above statement hurt someone's feelings but it is the plain truth.
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by longwinters » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:02 pm

I guess if a person doesn't or can't trust themselves to pay attention then this is a wise buy.....I don't think I would want to be around someone that can't remember to load an arrow......maybe they would forget to use the safety also.

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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by secret » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:49 pm

Amen .......Tom and Longwinters!!!!!!
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Re: Dryfire mechanism

Post by foofoo » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:07 pm

Tom wrote:
The trouble is, it sounds like you are going to rely on this device. Yes it worked as tested, but it is a mechanical device and a mechanical device will fail, you just never know when.

People the only safe way to handle a crossbow or gun is to always pay attention to what you are doing. Always follow the same steps in cocking, loading your crossbow and you will be safe. Many people feel that there is a need for these devices, but there is not a need. IF you need one then you are unsafe and should not handle a crossbow. Plain and simple, a crossbow is not a toy, they are a dangerous hunting tool that can hurt someone if you are not paying attention all the time. I have known and hunted with many hunters with crossbows (5 close to 30 years experience each) and non have had a dry-fire.

Sorry if my above statement hurt someone's feelings but it is the plain truth.
sounds like you and your hunting partners are safe and lucky enough to never had a dry fire. there are just too many cenarios that can happen using a crossbow. i dont see how one can compare a crossbow to a gun. there are similarities in operation and thats about it. for instance if you forget to load a gun and squeeze the trigger theres usually no issues with a dry fire. with a gun you dont need to fire it off at the end of every hunt either.i know you can de-cock some crossbows but ive found it very tricky and choose not to.while hunting in a tree i usually just hold my x-bow. your dealing with holding your xbow in downward angles and things getting bumped around the shooting rails or foiliage.if because of some reason the arrow gets pushed off the string a little i could see this dry fire device helping.if your at the range and your shooting proceedure gets thrown off say from talking to friends and get distracted i could see this thing helping.at the end of the days hunt you remove your hunting arrow and you get back to your vehicle in the pitch dark. you set your x-bow down and grab your discharge target and set it up several yards out. now youve just sat in a tree for hours with a cocked crossbow and all your brain sees is a xbow loaded with the string back and now you pick up your xbow and forget to load your field point discharge arrow being frozen and in a rush to get home to dinner. im sure the list of possibilties could go on forever. no ones perfect and i dont see relying on this dry fire device.worse case it fails. you would have the same mess anyway without the device. sorry just dont agree the dry fire issue is all that cut and dry. there is a need for it . just gotta decide if its right for you. me im gonna fork up the 70$.

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