15 year old killed by another hunter
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Re: 15 year old killed by another hunter
there was no reason for any of that to happen.deer first everything else second.sad
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During "small game" season, hunters are NOT required to wear orange. During deer gun season they ARE required to wear orange. Here's the problem, squirrl season and deer season are in at the same time. The wheels of change should be rolling as we speak that ALL hunters are required to wear orange during gun season regardless of what they are hunting.
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That is sad on a whole other level
I cannot recall where it happen, Pens. or Vermont, but saw it quickly on the news on Saturday or Sunday morning that a hunter had been shot and killed by a member of their hunting group who after realizing what had happened and seeing his deceased freind turned the rifle on him and killed himself. Two absolutely unnecessary deaths due to again, a hunter who "saw something in the woods".
I cannot recall where it happen, Pens. or Vermont, but saw it quickly on the news on Saturday or Sunday morning that a hunter had been shot and killed by a member of their hunting group who after realizing what had happened and seeing his deceased freind turned the rifle on him and killed himself. Two absolutely unnecessary deaths due to again, a hunter who "saw something in the woods".
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Re: 15 year old killed by another hunter
Very sad.
With or without wearing blaze orange, I can't believe people can take a shot without identifying the target beyond all doubt. I can't understand the "I saw something move" reason for taking a shot. If I was ever hunting with someone who done that he'd feel the back of my hand.
With or without wearing blaze orange, I can't believe people can take a shot without identifying the target beyond all doubt. I can't understand the "I saw something move" reason for taking a shot. If I was ever hunting with someone who done that he'd feel the back of my hand.
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So very very sad!
This is a tragedy made even more tragic by being totally preventable.
This is a tragedy made even more tragic by being totally preventable.
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Re: 15 year old killed by another hunter
I agree 100%. I was hunting on private land and saw a bush move in the brush ahead of me. Took me a few minutes to get sight of the deer's ears . . .another few minutes to wait for the deer to clear the bush so I knew I had a kill shot.Dash wrote:Very sad.
With or without wearing blaze orange, I can't believe people can take a shot without identifying the target beyond all doubt. I can't understand the "I saw something move" reason for taking a shot. If I was ever hunting with someone who done that he'd feel the back of my hand.
It was never a thought to just shoot or guess about where the bullet was hitting. You GOT to know this BEFORE the trigger is pulled.
I was always tought to never fire a shot "over a ridge". I set up to where I know my back stop.
I just don't understand thses guys shooting at an animal without seeing it clearly.
I like the idea of wearing orange in all seasons. But, we need to be responsible hunters. We need to hold the shooter accountable for these "accidents" . . .it should never go unpunished.
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Re: 15 year old killed by another hunter
maybe things would change if there were some life sentences handed out to get people to start paying attention. accident or not, this guy killed someone and deserves severe punishment as he's 100% at fault for the kids death. eye for an eye...
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Can't help but think of this Johnny cash song when I'm out with a firearm.
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I hope the good lord will help the family of this poor kid deal with the hard time they are going thru.
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I hope the good lord will help the family of this poor kid deal with the hard time they are going thru.
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In Canada , a person seeking to own (even borrow, unless under direct and immediate supervision) a firearm MUST first take a safety course. That's not a bad idea, even if the government of the day was less concerned about firearm safety than trying to discourage people from acquiring firearms.
However, not everyone who owns firearms hunts. The same safety rules should apply, but the excitement of the hunt can numb the brain. That's why it should also be mandatory to have Hunter Safety training before a licence is issued to a hunter. That should apply to young hunters, of course, and geezers like me. A few hours of training on safe hunting habits could save a lifetime of regrets and heartache.
However, not everyone who owns firearms hunts. The same safety rules should apply, but the excitement of the hunt can numb the brain. That's why it should also be mandatory to have Hunter Safety training before a licence is issued to a hunter. That should apply to young hunters, of course, and geezers like me. A few hours of training on safe hunting habits could save a lifetime of regrets and heartache.
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Re: 15 year old killed by another hunter
CanuckBen wrote:That is sad on a whole other level
I cannot recall where it happen, Pens. or Vermont, but saw it quickly on the news on Saturday or Sunday morning that a hunter had been shot and killed by a member of their hunting group who after realizing what had happened and seeing his deceased freind turned the rifle on him and killed himself. Two absolutely unnecessary deaths due to again, a hunter who "saw something in the woods".
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So very tragic! I wouldn't call this an accident but a negligent homicide! Totally uncalled for!
On a side note, landowners and their children hunting on their parents land are exempt from the blaze orange requirements in Tennessee. They are also exempt from the hunter safety requirment.
On a side note, landowners and their children hunting on their parents land are exempt from the blaze orange requirements in Tennessee. They are also exempt from the hunter safety requirment.
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I expect TWRA to take a hard look at this exemption. You do not know who is on adjoining property.sneak wrote:So very tragic! I wouldn't call this an accident but a negligent homicide! Totally uncalled for!
On a side note, landowners and their children hunting on their parents land are exempt from the blaze orange requirements in Tennessee. They are also exempt from the hunter safety requirment.
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Yea, I don't know man. It's a tough one. I think it depends on how neglegent the shooter was and how remorsefull he or she is after the fact. I can tell you that in the case of my room mate, his 12-yr-old cousin was absolutely devestated. At the funeral he just had a look in his eyes that said he was going to be messed up for life and I don't see what good it would have done to send him to juvee hall. On the other hand there are probably some of these cases where prosecution would be appropriate.ch312 wrote:accident or not, this guy killed someone and deserves severe punishment as he's 100% at fault for the kids death. eye for an eye...
Prevention is the best policy. Florida is like most states, people under a certain age have to take a safety hunter class before getting a license. It's a good policy, but not enough in some cases.
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you make a good point, but i'll kindly disagree.rayman wrote:Yea, I don't know man. It's a tough one. I think it depends on how neglegent the shooter was and how remorsefull he or she is after the fact.
i do exterior restoration on high rise apartments. let's say i'm laying a few bricks on the 20th floor and a brick falls because i was being careless. i forgot to close the gate on the safety fence that's meant to keep people out of the area and the brick kills someone. should i get let off the hook because i'm remorseful? nope, i'd deserve the harshest punishment out there.
how about someone that is speeding, loses control, and kills someone. he should get let off because he's so emotionally distraught that he wants to kill himself after he realizes what he's done? nope, locked up for good.
i could go on and on with examples, but my point is when you're in control of something that is capable of taking someones life you MUST be 100% sure that nobody is being put at risk.
a kid was killed and now his parents have to bury their son because some idiot (that is 66 years old and should damn well know better. VERY different than the 12 year old you mentioned) decided to start shooting at movement. there are ZERO excuses for something like this to happen, so he deserves the harshest punishment the state can dish out.
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TWRA does not require land owners to wear blaze orange while hunting on property that they own,, very sad when accidents like this happens ,, But I myself do not always wear the vest while hunting on our land either ,, I guess that I hope whom ever is trespassing will know what he is shooting at !!