Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by NEPAbowhunter » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:15 pm

gerald strine wrote:I think they should come out with a thumb hole 150 lb sister bow to the Vixen.
It would be a sweet handling bow.
Thinking of getting the 150 lb Vixen to compliment my Vortex and that sounds very interesting. If it looked like the Eclipse XT I would be all over it. Considering the Vixen for 3D and recreational shooting during the summer since my shoulder can no longer handle using a vertical bow.
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by wabi » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:22 pm

How about a Vixen with a black stock, rail, & limbs! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by N8tr Boy » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:30 pm

maybe its all Stealth Black and shoots bolts at blinding speeds at approaching targets. :lol: :lol: Sorry thats my Exomax ( mine is still camo) :lol: :lol:

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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by vixenmaster » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:06 pm

Heck i can't tell y'all nutten i don't knowed about. That would be jus down right bad :lol: I jus hear rumors, jus rumors :lol:
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by NEPAbowhunter » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:11 pm

A lot of the vertical bow companys 2013 stuff is out such as Hoyt and Mathews. When does Excalibur normally show the new years lineup/stuff?
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by Boo » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:35 pm

NEPAbowhunter wrote:A lot of the vertical bow companys 2013 stuff is out such as Hoyt and Mathews. When does Excalibur normally show the new years lineup/stuff?
Mathews has a certain "style" of marketing and does it well with teasers. Excalibur normally unveils at the ATA but ask your dealer what's coming.
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by Rudolph » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:14 pm

Woodspike wrote:Same limbs, 18.5" power stroke (assume that would end up somewhere around 275#?) "The Hammer"
Yeah, and the bow should be named Egomax :D
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by awshucks » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:15 pm

They know, lol. Here's a hint. I got rid of an Emax, don't want any more power, Capt.
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by strum » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:00 pm

Rudolph wrote:
Woodspike wrote:Same limbs, 18.5" power stroke (assume that would end up somewhere around 275#?) "The Hammer"
Yeah, and the bow should be named Egomax :D
i dont know about the names yal got there ..but i would name it ..
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by vixenmaster » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:13 pm

awshucks wrote:They know, lol. Here's a hint. I got rid of an Emax, don't want any more power, Capt.
Bring on the Power more power!
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by one shot scott » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:29 pm

We ne mor powwer capt!

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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by XCaddis » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:35 pm

A 275-300 lb. draw...maybe slightly longer limbs to support the speed increase. Probably would also need to redesign the trigger or release as this would put additional strain on the serving. Perhaps a string with a serving loop like a compound bow that could be easily replaced....hmmm...I should go work for Bill and company...
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by Rudolph » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:44 am

If i had to choose in which direction to improve the bow, I would definitely try to make it quieter. To you know how quiet is that device, the TAC 15? That quite would be perfect.

And now not so realistic :idea: Read on your own risk.
Another cool direction would be to make an xbow, which shoots special ultra light bolts or small arrows with 800- 1000 fps. No mater how loud it shoots, the projectile travels nearly as fast as the speed of sound and the animal has no time to react. The unique selling proposition is extended range up to 100- 150 yards. What do we need to make it possible?
1. light and short arrows with integrated cutting surface, which weights 50- 100 grains (not a problem in 21 sentry)
2. limbs or smth else, which is designed to shoot light weight projectile. The present limbs are designed for heavy arrows, they have the energy, but can effectively shoot only long and heavy arrows. Steel limbs could possibly be more resistant, but they are heavier and who knows if they are enough fast for the job. The limbs not only accelerate the arrow, but themselves + the string as well. (The limbs are so far definitely a challenge, but every day come new materials on the market and the polymers are getting tougher, so who knows :) ).
If we choose to accelerate the arrow using compressed air or rail gun technologies, we make the bow complicated and that's simply not cool :D. It wouldn't sell good.
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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by wheelie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:54 am

Rudolph wrote:If i had to choose in which direction to improve the bow, I would definitely try to make it quieter. To you know how quiet is that device, the TAC 15? That quite would be perfect.

And now not so realistic :idea: Read on your own risk.
Another cool direction would be to make an xbow, which shoots special ultra light bolts or small arrows with 800- 1000 fps. No mater how loud it shoots, the projectile travels nearly as fast as the speed of sound and the animal has no time to react. The unique selling proposition is extended range up to 100- 150 yards. What do we need to make it possible?
1. light and short arrows with integrated cutting surface, which weights 50- 100 grains (not a problem in 21 sentry)
2. limbs or smth else, which is designed to shoot light weight projectile. The present limbs are designed for heavy arrows, they have the energy, but can effectively shoot only long and heavy arrows. Steel limbs could possibly be more resistant, but they are heavier and who knows if they are enough fast for the job. The limbs not only accelerate the arrow, but themselves + the string as well. (The limbs are so far definitely a challenge, but every day come new materials on the market and the polymers are getting tougher, so who knows :) ).
If we choose to accelerate the arrow using compressed air or rail gun technologies, we make the bow complicated and that's simply not cool :D. It wouldn't sell good.
I can respect your idea but once we cross the 400FPS we are in trouble and it will be concidered a rifle in the eyes of law enforcement. Personally I hope it never happens. Once the can of worms opens it will never be closed. We should be all over crossbow makers to insure we never go over 400FPS.

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Re: Excalibur Crossbows in 2013

Post by Pydpiper » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:35 am

wheelie wrote: I can respect your idea but once we cross the 400FPS we are in trouble and it will be concidered a rifle in the eyes of law enforcement. Personally I hope it never happens. Once the can of worms opens it will never be closed. We should be all over crossbow makers to insure we never go over 400FPS.
Kevin, the Fps for "firearm" begins at 500fps, and other criteria must be met too like kinetic energy, as well as the fact that it needs a "barrel", which a bow does not have.
Currently a bow is not seen under the CCC as a firearm, nor is a bow that exceeds the 400fps mark. However, under the fish and wildlife act a bow (any bow) is already considered a firearm, but only while hunting, and for transport during dusk to dawn (encasement).
There are bows that exceed 400fps on the market right now. Excalibur was one of the first to reach that speed with the old wheeled bow, the Paradox. It was tuned back down to it's current speed.
Getting a bow reclassified to a firearm in the Criminal code would involve a major overhaul of the law as it is written, and would very likely be met by a lot of opposition.
As it stands now a person that has a firearms ban in Canada may have a clause about crossbows, not uncommon, but speed is not relevant to that ruling.
I think faster bows are just around the corner, the last 2 years in archery have shown some pretty large jumps in fps. If that is what the market wants, any bow company that wants to stay in business is going to have to produce what is in demand, or they simply wont have any business.
With speed comes other advancements, optics, limb composition, dampening systems.. Each technological advancement bring more speed, and advancement is the nature of the beast.
I'll stick with my 300fps Exocet..
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