Arrow weight variation

Crossbow Hunting

Moderator: Excalibur Marketing Dude

User avatar
Kegbelly
Posts: 1639
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:04 pm

Arrow weight variation

Post by Kegbelly »

What's considered an acceptable amount of variation in weight between your arrows? I'm talking about total arrow weight including broadheads. Got some Big John arrows on the way that weigh within 1 grain of each other, so now I'm looking at my broadhead weights. Will a few grains difference between heads have much effect? I'm thinking it wont matter too much until you get into longer yardages.
Matrix 380
18" Zombies, 400 gr w/ 125 gr Magnus Stingers & Lumenoks
Exomag
20" Zombies, 380 gr w/ 100 gr Magnus Stingers
bdog
Posts: 402
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:06 pm
Location: between here and there
Contact:

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by bdog »

Wont really make much diff, but if you weigh the shafts and heads separate, then put the heavier heads on the lighter shafts to try and get them close to the same weight...
http://autumnbreezebrittanys.com
paulaboutform
Posts: 4970
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:32 pm
Location: Coquitlam, British Columbia

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by paulaboutform »

I agree with bdog. Weighing the heads as he mentioned will keep you much closer. My 350 gr Diablo shot within 1.5" of my 400gr BEE at 20yards off hand. Try it out and let us know what you find. Good luck.
You're only paranoid if everyone isn't out to get you.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
My enemy's friend is also my enemy.
vixenmaster
Posts: 13618
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:51 pm
Location: Western Ky

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by vixenmaster »

All above good info, i try to keep mine wid-in 3gr + or - of each other. If'en er shots are under 40 yds 10gr either way don't matter in killin a deer
Half Bubble Off BD360

[email protected] 417-505-9315
Bones
Posts: 534
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:36 pm
Location: Waterloo ont.

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by Bones »

You won't see a few grain variance , I certainly don't get concerned about it!
User avatar
Kegbelly
Posts: 1639
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:04 pm

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by Kegbelly »

Thanks guys, I didnt think a few grains would matter much, since just about all heads and tips usually come in 25-grain increments.
I've always had to do the mix-n-match thing with my broadheads and Firebolts, their weight can vary 2-3 grains on just the shaft. I'll be shooting a lot better arrow now than what I'm used to so thought it was worth askin'. It's that OCD thing again, I want laser beams :lol: Much obliged for the answers!
Matrix 380
18" Zombies, 400 gr w/ 125 gr Magnus Stingers & Lumenoks
Exomag
20" Zombies, 380 gr w/ 100 gr Magnus Stingers
JPjunkie
Posts: 2020
Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:46 pm
Location: South of the River Indiana

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by JPjunkie »

Kegbelly wrote:Thanks guys, I didnt think a few grains would matter much, since just about all heads and tips usually come in 25-grain increments.
I've always had to do the mix-n-match thing with my broadheads and Firebolts, their weight can vary 2-3 grains on just the shaft. I'll be shooting a lot better arrow now than what I'm used to so thought it was worth askin'. It's that OCD thing again, I want laser beams :lol: Much obliged for the answers!
Your gettin em straight from Big John The ones he made me are like top notch darts :shock:
Matrix 405 Boo string Big John arras Praise the Lord For all Things
User avatar
Kegbelly
Posts: 1639
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:04 pm

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by Kegbelly »

Good advice! I'm no crack shot but I do OK. I practice with what I hunt with, thats why I like shooting my broadheads so much. Its hell on the target but the payoff is you know what it's gonna do. My .02 :D
Matrix 380
18" Zombies, 400 gr w/ 125 gr Magnus Stingers & Lumenoks
Exomag
20" Zombies, 380 gr w/ 100 gr Magnus Stingers
JPjunkie
Posts: 2020
Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:46 pm
Location: South of the River Indiana

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by JPjunkie »

Kegbelly wrote:Good advice! I'm no crack shot but I do OK. I practice with what I hunt with, thats why I like shooting my broadheads so much. Its hell on the target but the payoff is you know what it's gonna do. My .02 :D
I think thats worth 10 cents :wink:
Matrix 405 Boo string Big John arras Praise the Lord For all Things
TYE
Posts: 5136
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:11 pm
Location: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by TYE »

No that's worth more than 10 cents... replacing targets gets expensive.. :wink:
User avatar
Big John
Posts: 3119
Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 9:29 pm
Location: Niagara Region

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by Big John »

That's a good question. Has a few answers as well. But for this one I'll answer one.
Having arrows that are weight matched, squared, and spin tested for quality before they get to you is a perfect start.
After that you know it's you or the other equipment that's needs tending.
After you have sighted in for all the distances you need to match your scope, then it's time to freehand practice as stated.
This is very important.!!!
As far as how many grains in weight difference will affect your arrows.
The answer is how finicky are you?
At twenty to 40 yds. a couple grains may not be a factor. More than a couple grains you will see that the heavier one will hit lower than the rest consistantly.
At 40 to 60 yds. you will see a difference in
the arrows that weigh even three grains heavier. Shooting from a rest and bench mind you.
Then if you open a package of field tips or Broadheads, they will say 100 or 125 gr.
But they will vary up to 2 gr.
So if your arrows are weighing a couple grains different, and your heads a couple grains different, it starts to add up.
Trying to match your heads to your arrows to make them right is okay. As long as they aren't weight matched already. Then matching heads will not work. You will have to weed out the heavier ones or double washer your light ones. Or make up your weight a different way.
It is always better to have custom arrows, they cost the same as store bought. It eliminates a couple problems associated with store bought.
Some are up to 7 or 8 grains difference in weight, then add heads that are a few grains different and you have a bit of a challenge.
Also remember that just having a cheap electronic scale to weigh your arrows doesn't mean they weigh that. They need to be calibrated frequently.!!!
The better the scale the better the readings.
Also having a Triple Beam to check means there is never a mistake. :wink:

Sorry for the ramble,
Big John
Phoenix - 375 gr. BEE's (babyneilsons)
Micro 315 - 410 gr. Zombies/Lumenoks
Micro 355. - Punisher-Zombies/Lumenoks

Arrowmaker - Retired
[email protected]
RexKay
Posts: 873
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:57 pm
Location: Out past Yale,Mich

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by RexKay »

That's a good ramble! Sound stuff fer sure.
I like things with strings.....
4 Guitars
8 Excals
1 Scorpyd
PSE Tac Elite
13 Grayling Bears
And 2 Hoyts
User avatar
Kegbelly
Posts: 1639
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:04 pm

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by Kegbelly »

That's great information, thanks Big John!
Matrix 380
18" Zombies, 400 gr w/ 125 gr Magnus Stingers & Lumenoks
Exomag
20" Zombies, 380 gr w/ 100 gr Magnus Stingers
JPjunkie
Posts: 2020
Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:46 pm
Location: South of the River Indiana

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by JPjunkie »

Big John wrote:That's a good question. Has a few answers as well. But for this one I'll answer one.
Having arrows that are weight matched, squared, and spin tested for quality before they get to you is a perfect start.
After that you know it's you or the other equipment that's needs tending.
After you have sighted in for all the distances you need to match your scope, then it's time to freehand practice as stated.
This is very important.!!!
As far as how many grains in weight difference will affect your arrows.
The answer is how finicky are you?
At twenty to 40 yds. a couple grains may not be a factor. More than a couple grains you will see that the heavier one will hit lower than the rest consistantly.
At 40 to 60 yds. you will see a difference in
the arrows that weigh even three grains heavier. Shooting from a rest and bench mind you.
Then if you open a package of field tips or Broadheads, they will say 100 or 125 gr.
But they will vary up to 2 gr.
So if your arrows are weighing a couple grains different, and your heads a couple grains different, it starts to add up.
Trying to match your heads to your arrows to make them right is okay. As long as they aren't weight matched already. Then matching heads will not work. You will have to weed out the heavier ones or double washer your light ones. Or make up your weight a different way.
It is always better to have custom arrows, they cost the same as store bought. It eliminates a couple problems associated with store bought.
Some are up to 7 or 8 grains difference in weight, then add heads that are a few grains different and you have a bit of a challenge.
Also remember that just having a cheap electronic scale to weigh your arrows doesn't mean they weigh that. They need to be calibrated frequently.!!!
The better the scale the better the readings.
Also having a Triple Beam to check means there is never a mistake. :wink:
Feel free to ramble Your like an Encyclopedia for arras :lol:
Sorry for the ramble,
Big John
Matrix 405 Boo string Big John arras Praise the Lord For all Things
jody5252
Posts: 584
Joined: Mon May 14, 2012 7:30 pm
Location: chambersburg, pennsylvania

Re: Arrow weight variation

Post by jody5252 »

vixenmaster wrote:All above good info, i try to keep mine wid-in 3gr + or - of each other. If'en er shots are under 40 yds 10gr either way don't matter in killin a deer
Well said... My thoughts exactly. those slight differences only matter to target/3D shooting.
Exocet 200 & Micro 315 2219 Magnums-Flex Fletch SK200/300 Vanes-10 Point and Sightmark Scope-Single post quiver mts.-Vixenmaster/Trinity/8 pt.Flemish Strings-Dirt-Nap100/125 gr.-Lumenoks
Post Reply