A Word of Warning - Beware

[Boo]

I've done the same thing with my 380 more than once by accident, forgetting to let off the safety is such an easy thing to do. Mine did not fire, thank goodness. My brother had something like that happen with a 7mm magnum rifle, he flipped the safety off to unload and the gun fired, and the bullet went thru his tailgate, the front of the bed, the back of the cab, and exited the rear door. He sent it back to the manufacturer, turned out to be a little piece of plastic shavings from the stock that had got lodged in the trigger group.
Comfy you need to send it back to excalibur and let them disassemble and inspect it, could be a faulty trigger or a piece of debris from the manufacturing process stuck in the trigger area. The fact that you were able to repeat it makes me think it's the trigger itself. That is not supposed to happen, it's downright scary.

I guess your brother learned something that day!
As well as our hunting tools (bows, rifles, handguns etc) are engineered it does not take much to have things go wrong! It's best we expect the unexpected.

[strum]

Thanks for the heads up Lou..
I think its an isolated problem you have and needs so to be sent back but still
its good to post these things to help raise awareness .
one more good reason to never ever unsafely point our weapons.

[stoneycreekhunter]

Does this problem exist on the triggertech triggers? I have purchased one for my 380.

[Waif]

Thanks for the heads up. Applies to any trigger,if it don,t behave properly park it after safely uncocking till proper repair possible. Its the people element that led to some ridiculous triggers and pull on the market today that satisfy part of safety concerns but destroy accuracy.Proven on a recent rimfire purchase.
Good to hear of precaution of knowing where unit is pointed before taking it out of safety position. Well done.

[DaGriz]

I think Comfybear did the right thing but letting people know to be careful He could have just called Excalibur but he opted to posted a Warning for everyone to insure nobody gets hurt. Kudos to Lou for this thoughtful act!

[onebigskittle]

Thanks Comfy for the heads up...you may have saved some one from getting hurt or worst.
If this can happen to one crossbow it could to another, Information is valuable and this is something we all should know about.

[agingcrossbower]

Refreshing to have someone come on here with a problem and not present it with a bad attitude. Thanks so much for bring it to our attention and doing it in a classy way. Thumbs up!

[Boo]

Does this problem exist on the triggertech triggers? I have purchased one for my 380.

Nope, the way the "sears" are engineered with the safety off, if you pull on the trigger and let go the trigger resets itself or travels back to where it started. There is also no movement in the trigger once the safety is engaged.

[otisbrazwell]

my 380 has a triger tec 2 stage and it dose NOT happen. not good
could be painfull in more ways than one.

[ComfyBear]

Normally I'm a low-key type of individual, so I do not like to belabor an issue, only to make it worse. However when it comes to safety and awareness, I don't think one can over emphasize it.

I don't mean to sound pompous, when I say the following:

I've been around firearms (pellet gun) since the age of five. At that early age I was taught to be responsible and not treat it as a toy. Later in life, while applying for my hunting licence, being more analytical than most, I read and analyzed all the safety literature I could get my hands on.

In the 80's I got interested in handguns, joined a shooting club, took all the required safety courses and competed in PPC matches both in Ontario and in the state of Michigan and have several prizes to show for it.

Although I do no longer compete, I've maintained and I'm still a member of a shooting club, where I'm a trained and qualified safety range officer. It is this training which I attribute in part to having averted a different and undesirable outcome yesterday.

It is this training and regard for the safety of others that when yesterday's incident occurred I felt compelled to let the forum members know of the inherit and potential dangers one faces when dealing in this case with their Excalibur crossbow.

I don't mean to preach, but one can never be too safe.

In my opinion an accident can and will happen more readily when one is unaware of the possibility of it happening.

So in closing, be always on your guard.

[Onetimeonly x-->]

Normally I'm a low-key type of individual, so I do not like to belabor an issue, only to make it worse. However when it comes to safety and awareness, I don't think one can over emphasize it.

I don't mean to sound pompous, when I say the following:

I've been around firearms (pellet gun) since the age of five. At that early age I was taught to be responsible and not treat it as a toy. Later in life, while applying for my hunting licence, being more analytical than most, I read and analyzed all the safety literature I could get my hands on.

In the 80's I got interested in handguns, joined a shooting club, took all the required safety courses and competed in PPC matches both in Ontario and in the state of Michigan and have several prizes to show for it.

Although I do no longer compete, I've maintained and I'm still a member of a shooting club, where I'm a trained and qualified safety range officer. It is this training which I attribute in part to having averted a different and undesirable outcome yesterday.

It is this training and regard for the safety of others that when yesterday's incident occurred I felt compelled to let the forum members know of the inherit and potential dangers one faces when dealing in this case with their Excalibur crossbow.

I don't mean to preach, but one can never be too safe.

In my opinion an accident can and will happen more readily when one is unaware of the possibility of it happening.

So in closing, be always on your guard.

Lou, you don't have to defend or explain yourself!! Thanks for the heads up!!

[Big John]

Very well said Lou!
I was coming on to say more about your integrity and skill level in arms and Bows but you beat me to it.
Thanks for the Warning, and get it checked.

Big John

One day I hope to beat you, or come close enough to call it a draw at least in 3D.
But I think I'm still dreaming.

[Kegbelly]

Lou, you don't have to defend or explain yourself!! Thanks for the heads up!!

X2! I think you did exactly the right thing by telling people there may be a potential safety concern.

[Excalibur Marketing Dude]

Lou, please call me and we will look after the issue. To put everybody's minds at ease, there is no chronic problem with the Matrix 405's trigger or any of our other models for that matter. This is an isolated case but as always we will take care of it. This is the first I have heard of a trigger issue with any Matrix 405.

As a reminder, if anybody ever has an issue with one of our products I would ask you call our customer service department ASAP before posting it here. I realise Lou was worried about this as a safety issue and understand the post. However, we have been extensively testing the 405 Matrix for over a year and we never had any trigger issues.

Thanks,

Peter

[agingcrossbower]

Flawless customer service as usual. Thanks for the update Peter.