MNR Harvest Report

[Boo]

I hope everyone fills their's in. That and reported road kills is probably the only way the MNR are deciding on additional tags and doe tags.
One thing that burns me is that we have to provide the stamp? Seriously? So, I sent mine in without a stamp and without putting a return address!

[Canuck Archer]

I hate to admit it, but our MNR is a joke. They are run by the votes coming out of Toronto and haven't had an original idea since 1950.....

[taz3]

I hope everyone fills their's in. That and reported road kills is probably the only way the MNR are deciding on additional tags and doe tags.
One thing that burns me is that we have to provide the stamp? Seriously? So, I sent mine in without a stamp and without putting a return address!

Or just fill in the MNR address from the front in place of the return address!

[jparchery]

I was employed by the MNR in 97, I seen first hand how much of a "joke" they really can be!

[Boo]

The "joke", as it were, starts at the top with the Premier and then the minister. When they accept millions of dollars of donations from a plastic mold company that was against bear hunting, resulting in the death of the spring bear hunt, the government becomes no more than a prostitute.
Our rapidly declining numbers of hunting licences make it easy worse.
Not to defend the MNR, but graduating from Sir Sandford Fleming College as a Forestry Technician and on occasion working with a CO who's office I shared as an Assistant Park Superintendent, I know it's not all to be blamed on the MNR itself. Also, having first hand knowledge by way of battling with the MOE for the last 3 years I see more of how things work and I place more emphasis on the Premier.
The Premiers all are concerned with future votes rather than doing the right thing. Bottom line, it's all about the money and power. Money for the next election. We hunters are a declining number so we are a declining vote. The Premiers hand down directives and they are followed if the ministers of the various ministries get the boot.

[Doe Master]

Don this is a double edged sword for them the fiberals . On one hand they want to make the anti-hunting crowd happy by reducing the number of tags . But on the other it is a very large cash cow for their personal projects .

[Boo]

Don this is a double edged sword for them the fiberals . On one hand they want to make the anti-hunting crowd happy by reducing the number of tags . But on the other it is a very large cash cow for their personal projects .

We should all get a home pregnancy test with out tax returns. Maybe a home STD test kit too!

[galamb]

I did both my Deer and Bear survey "on-line" - no stamp, no wasted ink from my pen.

And as an added bonus, this was the only on-line interaction I had with the MNR recently that didn't cost me a $2 convenience fee (plus HST of course)

[Boo]

(plus HST of course)

Yeah, what's with the HST? And while we're at it, why do we have to pay HST for postage? What a rip!

[Doe Master]

We should all get a home pregnancy test with our tax returns. Maybe a home STD test kit too!

It is a shame . They love our money for all kinds of different licenses . Be it driving , hunting or fishing . But they don`t want to spend a dime from those fees for us .

[mr meat]

Did mine online also!!

[Ont_Excal]

Nothing ever changes whether I fill out a report or not.
I don't waste my time.

[evaughan]

im getting frustrated listening and reading hunter comments about the mnr biologists. It seems the folks I hear and read would prefer they abandon Science altogether in favour of anecdotal rash judgements. This notion is stupid of you ask me, just plain stupid.

The basis of science are trends in data, not joe blow from Timmin seeing less moose for a couple years. I understand that it's frustrating that they need to see a 5 or 10 year trend before they make a major move but what s the alternative? Guessing.....no thanks. Unless someone here is floating a a better new way for humanity to evaluate its surroundings, I think we should stick with science and let people with doctorates in biology evaluate proper data then react accordingly with management decisions.

Yes they will always be 5 years behind the curve, but what is the other realistic option?

They will make changes to the moose tag system, then evaluate those changes over five years. What is the other option here?

[way123hockey]

I think people are more frustrated with the political interference into wildlife biology. If it was left up to the MNR trained biologists to make the important decisions we would be better off. Politicians make their decisions based on future political votes not scientific evidence from MNR biologists. JMO.

[Doe Master]

I think you hit the nail on the head . Way123hockey
I have no fight with the MNR . My discuss is with politicians deciding to dabble in wildlife management for the sake of a few votes .
I would love to see 100% revenue from licenses go back into the MNR .