Axiom and Ibex

awshucks · Post by **awshucks** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:12 am

Rumored soon to be no more............

Mo wannabe · Post by **Mo wannabe** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:54 am

Times are changing faster than I can keep up with !

bubba · Post by **bubba** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:08 am

With the new grizzly and 310, kinda figured that would be the way they might go... Just hope hey have a bunch of replacement parts stored away in case??? Ya know what I mean, That's not gangster.. its southern......

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:36 am

If'en they don't carry replacement parts they will have a replacement crossbow

Fred T · Post by **Fred T** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:41 pm

No surprise,can't see either selling well vs the Grizzly.

strum · Post by **strum** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:13 am

Fred T wrote:No surprise,can't see either selling well vs the Grizzly.

I concur

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:15 am

strum wrote:
Fred T wrote:No surprise,can't see either selling well vs the Grizzly.
I concur

I pass

MI Yeti · Post by **MI Yeti** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:53 am

Is the vixen II gone as well ?

Demon Deacon · Post by **Demon Deacon** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:30 pm

I don't know if they'd hold on to just one of the larger models but seems like there will always be a market for the 150 lb pull. I bought an Axiom over Christmas and probably would have waited for the Griz if I knew it was coming out but I don't regret buying it. Personally I think they could keep the Vixen II and maybe offer an SMF (cheaper) version of the Vix and drop the Axiom/Ibex. Who knows but I just think there will always be enough of a market for the lighter draw to keep it around.

canoe13 · Post by **canoe13** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:47 pm

All they have to do is shorten the frame of the Grizzly to have a 150lb. bow and then give it new name.

Demon Deacon · Post by **Demon Deacon** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:57 pm

Yeah but it wouldn't have the same level of performance as the Vixen at 150. It would mean introducing a bow with lower performance than what has been the minimum hunting bow they offer.

awshucks · Post by **awshucks** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:46 pm

Yeah but it wouldn't have the same level of performance as the Vixen at 150.

What do you base this on? Just curious..........

MI Yeti · Post by **MI Yeti** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:47 pm

The 190lb cub shoots 285fps same as a vixenII . a 150lb matrix bow would be very slow . The cub is probably as low a draw weight as a matrix bow will get .

Demon Deacon · Post by **Demon Deacon** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:59 pm

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. And the cub has a 190 lb draw weight, 40 lbs more than the Vixen II. I just wondered if there was enough of a market for the lower draw weights to keep the Vix around. I can kind of see dropping the Axiom (although I like mine) but 40 lbs is a big difference.

robertyb · Post by **robertyb** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:10 pm

I would be willing to bet that the Cub is easier to cock than the Vixen even though it is higher poundage, I am basing this on me cocking my Vortex and my Matrix 330. The 330 is 20 lbs. heavier but is easier to cock because of the shorter draw length.

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