Crossbow vs. Rifle?
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Crossbow vs. Rifle?
Hi everyone,
when you compare a shot with a Crossbow with a gunshot, is there a higher chance to wound deadly with one of the weapons?
Can you say that a shot with one of these weapons is more dangerous?
when you compare a shot with a Crossbow with a gunshot, is there a higher chance to wound deadly with one of the weapons?
Can you say that a shot with one of these weapons is more dangerous?
Richard,
Rather than go into a long explanation & all the possibilities, I'd just say the odds depend on the shooter. Any weapon that has the potential to inflict fatal injury has to be used wisely and given respect. A careless person, or ill-advised shot can have serious consequences, so any hunter should be aware of the potential for disaster.
Take only high-percentage shots.
Be aware of what's behind the target.
Stay within the limitations of the weapon in hand and the shooter's abilities.
Always remember that when you pull the trigger it is your moral responsibility to be certain of the fate of the animal (and any living creature in the path of the projectile)! You can't give life back!
wabi
Rather than go into a long explanation & all the possibilities, I'd just say the odds depend on the shooter. Any weapon that has the potential to inflict fatal injury has to be used wisely and given respect. A careless person, or ill-advised shot can have serious consequences, so any hunter should be aware of the potential for disaster.
Take only high-percentage shots.
Be aware of what's behind the target.
Stay within the limitations of the weapon in hand and the shooter's abilities.
Always remember that when you pull the trigger it is your moral responsibility to be certain of the fate of the animal (and any living creature in the path of the projectile)! You can't give life back!
wabi
Arrow vs Bullet
The idea of a shot from a rifle I believe is that the kill is provided through blunt force trauma, with an arrow the kill is more acute in that it will cause the animal to bleed out. I hope this correct and helpfull!
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Both are quite deadly in the hands of a competent hunter. There is no species of an animal in the world that has been killed by a gun that hasn't been killed by an arrow.
As far as "more dangerous", I am assuming you mean to a human - I wouldn't want to be shot with either...
The arrow shot might give you a few more seconds to contemplate your demise.
As far as "more dangerous", I am assuming you mean to a human - I wouldn't want to be shot with either...
The arrow shot might give you a few more seconds to contemplate your demise.
Woody Williams
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Richard,
I have been crossbowing for three years. All the archery shots I've either made or personally witnessed (with my friends) went down like this.
7 yards double lung - 70 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
20 yards single lung & main artery - 50 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
15 yards double lung - 15 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
25 yards double lung - 50 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
40 yards double lung - 200+ yard recovery - deer was pumped up as being persued by coyotes
5 yards spine, heart, lung - fell on the spot - died on the spot
15 yards spine, follow up shot to lungs - dropped on the spot, died on the spot.
If you take only good high percentage shots with a crossbow, recovery is almost certain. If you bowhunt long enough, there will certainly be a shot that doesn't go as planned and that can make for a long recovery or failed recovery. If hit through both lungs, most blood trails are easy to follow and short.
A few years ago I never would have believed archery tackle kills this efficiently if I had not witnessed it myself.
Mike
I have been crossbowing for three years. All the archery shots I've either made or personally witnessed (with my friends) went down like this.
7 yards double lung - 70 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
20 yards single lung & main artery - 50 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
15 yards double lung - 15 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
25 yards double lung - 50 yard recovery - fell within eyesight
40 yards double lung - 200+ yard recovery - deer was pumped up as being persued by coyotes
5 yards spine, heart, lung - fell on the spot - died on the spot
15 yards spine, follow up shot to lungs - dropped on the spot, died on the spot.
If you take only good high percentage shots with a crossbow, recovery is almost certain. If you bowhunt long enough, there will certainly be a shot that doesn't go as planned and that can make for a long recovery or failed recovery. If hit through both lungs, most blood trails are easy to follow and short.
A few years ago I never would have believed archery tackle kills this efficiently if I had not witnessed it myself.
Mike
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Actually a deer or any other animal that dies from an arrow is dying because of lack of oxygen to the brain. The brain can not function long without oxygen.
That is caused by two things - rapid loss of blood pressure from bleeding out (no blood flow to the brain) AND lung collapse from BOTH lungs being punctured. It is not just merely blood loss in most cases.
Death from blood loss can take time if a major artery is not punctured/cut.
That is why the very best spot to shoot an animal is through the lungs. You've got both - blood loss and lung collapse..
That is caused by two things - rapid loss of blood pressure from bleeding out (no blood flow to the brain) AND lung collapse from BOTH lungs being punctured. It is not just merely blood loss in most cases.
Death from blood loss can take time if a major artery is not punctured/cut.
That is why the very best spot to shoot an animal is through the lungs. You've got both - blood loss and lung collapse..
Woody Williams
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On all the ones I have shot so far I saw them all drop, and I still waited 15-30 minutes to be sure they were done. I have heard of deer getting up and going hard if you get on them too soon. Most of that time I sat was to stop my knees from knocking so I could climb down! It was hard to sit there that long!
The 2 spine shots had guys on them almost immediatley as they were obviously expired right beside the stand.
The coyote one (200 yard run) was RJ's a couple years ago. RJ can comment further, but he had enough time to pack up his stand and gear, gather his arrow, take a couple pictures, etc. before tracking...I estimate 15-30 minutes as well. Most of that buck's run was through harvested corn so RJ could see him running and faltering away from the other deer he was running with. Then he heard him crash into a fence and an old car hood (whang!!!) and had pretty much figured the buck was down before he even started tracking.
Mike
The 2 spine shots had guys on them almost immediatley as they were obviously expired right beside the stand.
The coyote one (200 yard run) was RJ's a couple years ago. RJ can comment further, but he had enough time to pack up his stand and gear, gather his arrow, take a couple pictures, etc. before tracking...I estimate 15-30 minutes as well. Most of that buck's run was through harvested corn so RJ could see him running and faltering away from the other deer he was running with. Then he heard him crash into a fence and an old car hood (whang!!!) and had pretty much figured the buck was down before he even started tracking.
Mike