cocking matrixes
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cocking matrixes
Hi guys, might seem a stupid question but how are the bows cocked? do you just grab the string and pull or are one these rope devices required at all times to do it?
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Rope cocker unless you are this guy
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Watch the d.v.d. catalogue, at the bottom of this site. There are all sorts of vids, on every thing about your bow and acc, including how to properly cock your bow, All of them are very informative .........
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bubba wrote:Watch the d.v.d. catalogue, at the bottom of this site. There are all sorts of vids, on every thing about your bow and acc, including how to properly cock your bow, All of them are very informative .........
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newbie wrote:Rope cocker unless you are this guy
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well I am not the same shape as that guy but actually a powerlifter by sport always cocked exomags without much effort, plenty of horses left over I feel.
More concerned about whether it has any sort of ill effect on the bow/string/limbs to pull the string by hand? basically if I can do it barehanded, is it actually a good idea or not?
More concerned about whether it has any sort of ill effect on the bow/string/limbs to pull the string by hand? basically if I can do it barehanded, is it actually a good idea or not?
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Accuracy may suffer when cocking by hand. It is possible that you could introduce nock travel by drawing the string off centre. Besides the strength involved, one must have to deal with the pinch (ouch).......on the shorter limbed bows. Decocking would be another reason not to do it.
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MickB it is mostly tech on if you can hand cock the Exo models. I can still hand cock an Exomag and my dad, at 74 still cocked his Exomag but now uses the rope cocker in his 80's.
This year at BooFest, I tried to hand cock a micro but could not manage to do it even with the shorted draw length. I am not sure if a 310 could be done, one day I would like to try.
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This year at BooFest, I tried to hand cock a micro but could not manage to do it even with the shorted draw length. I am not sure if a 310 could be done, one day I would like to try.
Yes if hand cocking is not done properly it could affect accuracy by cocking off center, but the same can be said about using the rope cocker. Either way can be accurate, it is just easier to use the rope cocker.ehntr wrote:Accuracy may suffer when cocking by hand. It is possible that you could introduce nock travel by drawing the string off centre. Besides the strength involved, one must have to deal with the pinch (ouch).......on the shorter limbed bows. Decocking would be another reason not to do it.
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Tom, I'll take it a step further. Hand cocking will be less accurate than using a cocking aid, period. .....even when done properly.Tom wrote:MickB it is mostly tech on if you can hand cock the Exo models. I can still hand cock an Exomag and my dad, at 74 still cocked his Exomag but now uses the rope cocker in his 80's.
This year at BooFest, I tried to hand cock a micro but could not manage to do it even with the shorted draw length. I am not sure if a 310 could be done, one day I would like to try.
Yes if hand cocking is not done properly it could affect accuracy by cocking off center, but the same can be said about using the rope cocker. Either way can be accurate, it is just easier to use the rope cocker.ehntr wrote:Accuracy may suffer when cocking by hand. It is possible that you could introduce nock travel by drawing the string off centre. Besides the strength involved, one must have to deal with the pinch (ouch).......on the shorter limbed bows. Decocking would be another reason not to do it.
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Sorry Paul, I have to disagree with you on that.paulaboutform wrote: ................
Tom, I'll take it a step further. Hand cocking will be less accurate than using a cocking aid, period. .....even when done properly.
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When I learned to cock a crossbow, there were no cocking aids. The way we learned was to use our thumbs (just like the hooks are with the aids) to ride against the side of the rail (both sides) when pulling the string back into tbe cocked postion. If your string is being pulled off center, you will feel it in the pressure onto your thumb. Cocking it this way (by hand) forces the string to stayed centered.
If your using the cocking aid & one hook is not tight against the rail (might move a little when starting to cock) and you pull back, it might pull the string off center & you would not know.
As I said, if it is done properly, both methods can be equally as accurate. But hand cocking is not as easy and is more strenious.
Paul, next year at BooFest, I challenge you to test it for yourself. I will hand cock the bow and you use the rope cocker (you doing all the shooting) and see which is more accurate.
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Tom, I will gladly take you up on that...just because I really enjoyed getting to spend some time together at Boofest. I've actually hand cocked the exos exactly as you've described and found a change. However, I could be wrong. It happened once before......the time I thought I was wrong.
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...Paul, are you referring to the time you thought you were wrong, but were mistaken?paulaboutform wrote:Tom, I will gladly take you up on that...just because I really enjoyed getting to spend some time together at Boofest. I've actually hand cocked the exos exactly as you've described and found a change. However, I could be wrong. It happened once before......the time I thought I was wrong.
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YIPPEE! a "My daddy can whoop your daddy " contest! I'll have to go back to Boofest to see this one! cant wait!paulaboutform wrote:Tom, I will gladly take you up on that...just because I really enjoyed getting to spend some time together at Boofest. I've actually hand cocked the exos exactly as you've described and found a change. However, I could be wrong. It happened once before......the time I thought I was wrong.
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Paul, I have shot an Exomag hand cocked & cocked with a rope cocker with no change of accuracy. In fact, there was no change in point of impact. This was my dad's bow and he has had the same no change in accuracy. We both are very paticular with how our hunting tools perform and if there was a change, we would have quickly noticed.
It sounds like there could be a second little side contest
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LOL, now that is funny, but in your case, is it not "the Son can Whip his Daddy's butt in a shooting contest"flightattendant100 wrote: YIPPEE! a "My daddy can whoop your daddy " contest! I'll have to go back to Boofest to see this one! cant wait!
It sounds like there could be a second little side contest
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That's why I didn't shoot! Don't want to embarrass myself any further.Tom wrote:Paul, I have shot an Exomag hand cocked & cocked with a rope cocker with no change of accuracy. In fact, there was no change in point of impact. This was my dad's bow and he has had the same no change in accuracy. We both are very paticular with how our hunting tools perform and if there was a change, we would have quickly noticed.
LOL, now that is funny, but in your case, is it not "the Son can Whip his Daddy's butt in a shooting contest"flightattendant100 wrote: YIPPEE! a "My daddy can whoop your daddy " contest! I'll have to go back to Boofest to see this one! cant wait!
It sounds like there could be a second little side contest
Tom