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Need help with Spitfires

Post by nomercy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:37 pm

For those who use bands on your spitfires what size bands do you use ? This is my first venture with mechanical heads and 2 of the 3 new heads opened on launch out of my exomax. I placed scotch tape around them to keep them shut and shot them again and they did not open until impact with the target and POI was dead on with my field points. So I will use bands on them, just need to know what size to use.
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by Trigger1212 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:51 pm

NM,

I've shot spitfires for years with no issues with blades opening at the shot. How did you verify that this is happening? Just curious, you say it's happening so it's happening just wondering how you verified it. Shoot it through sheet of newspaper at 10 feet or something? NAP does make specific "spitfire" type heads for crossbows to address just his issue.

Will be interested to see what o-rings are suggested. Good Luck!

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by nomercy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:10 pm

1 was on target the other 2 was about a foot high and had cut marks on the wrap around the foot stirrup.

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by nomercy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:14 pm

I should add at this was at 20 yards, and after I placed tape around them all 3 shot spot on.

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by Trigger1212 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:15 pm

I'd say that was a pretty good indication!

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by amythntr » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:38 pm

.... Hey nomercy .... I also have been shooting the 100g spitfire MAXX for the past 2 years with no premature opening of the blades....just a dumb question... How many times have you shot each BH before this happened?.... They are only made to open n close 5 x before Mfgr suggests the wedge is changed...

..... I also might suggest you give NAP a call , they might provide you with some guidance and possibly send you a replacement pack if you tell them you are not happy!

..... Let us know the outcome!

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by Riflemanz » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:06 pm

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by nomercy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:28 pm

The heads were new and had never been shot. I am not bad mouthing the spitfires at all, after I started taping them they shot great and did not open until impact and hit the same as my field points out to 40 yards. I will order new wedges but I will still use dental bands just to be on the safe side. I just don't know what size dental bands to use, 3/16 or 1/4 light, medium, or heavy?
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by amythntr » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:34 pm

nomercy wrote:The heads were new and had never been shot. I am not bad mouthing the spitfires at all, after I started taping them they shot great and did not open until impact and hit the same as my field points out to 40 yards. I will order new wedges but I will still use dental bands just to be on the safe side.
..... Wasn't getting that impression...sometime calling Mfgr we stand to learn something others don't know.... Or at a minimum they are put on notice and possibly they send you free product...

..,,,, obtw.... When I get home from vacation in the middle of the week I am gonna pick up some of the new xxx 2" spitfires at Dicks...100g

Anthony :)
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by Gwens Dilemma » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:35 pm

I've watched this discussion many times over the years. My carved tip Exomag had issues with never before fired Spitfires opening from the shot the first year they came out. I can't answer why some of us have issues and some of us don't. I went back to the Wasp fixed blade that Bill T. advised when I bought my bow and use the KISS principle. :wink:
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by Deaf jeff » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:52 pm

amythntr wrote:
nomercy wrote:The heads were new and had never been shot. I am not bad mouthing the spitfires at all, after I started taping them they shot great and did not open until impact and hit the same as my field points out to 40 yards. I will order new wedges but I will still use dental bands just to be on the safe side.
..... Wasn't getting that impression...sometime calling Mfgr we stand to learn something others don't know.... Or at a minimum they are put on notice and possibly they send you free product...

..,,,, obtw.... When I get home from vacation in the middle of the week I am gonna pick up some of the new xxx 2" spitfires at Dicks...100g

Anthony :)
I read somewhere that that there are retention clips in the works that are made "stronger" so they work better with higher poundage bows, these new clips just need to trade places with the standard clips. I don't know any more details though or when/where they will be available
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by UPSMAN » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:08 pm

All the reason to shoot a fixed blade head. Love the KISS system. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by bobcat » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:49 pm

Riflemanz wrote:3/16 dental bands free from your dentist!

whats a dentist
:lol:

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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by amythntr » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:28 pm

bobcat wrote:
Riflemanz wrote:3/16 dental bands free from your dentist!

whats a dentist
:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

My dentist is on speed dial with his real estate agent and travel agent when I walk through the door! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anthony :)

Ps: great to hear about stronger retention clips coming out!
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Re: Need help with Spitfires

Post by Chefrific » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:19 pm

Certainly wouldn't hurt to put dental bands around them as added insurance.
I've noticed with my spitfires that after only one shot into my Reinhart 18-1 target, the target material smashes the dimple on the retention clip flat and they won't stay open after one shot into that target.
I had a representative from NAP tell me that he glues his shut when practicing and I quote: "I personally take old heads I've killed with and then just "crazy glue" the blade slots and close the head again...(They stay together for dozens of shots and I can always reglue them, etc)...."

I still would put a dental band on a brand new head to hunt with. It will give you a little insurance and will still open up just fine when it strikes it's target.

I've got the new spitfire XXX, and they have shot GREAT from my micro. I'm also waiting on some Ramcat fixed blades to test out.
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