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Image[/URL] I Have been using 2219 logs for years with great happiness ,dont want to get into the great carbon metal debate. I recently switched to the 2216s with the nap twisters. I have been putting an extra insert in front to bump up foc (26 grains) and shooting a 125 gr. Head my groups have shrunk increadibly smaller than the 2219s . On all 3 crossbows .im putting a bet on the lower gpi on the 2216 making the foc better and these twisters are the bomb. If you shoot 2219s dont be afraid to experiment im glad i did at a forum members suggestion.
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how do you put in an extra insert? wouldn't that work with the 2219's also??
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I just grind the tinty shoulder off the first insert on a belt sander and insert it before the original insert (epoxy of course)ive done the extra insert for years one my 2219s to bump up the weight a sanded off onsert w/epoxy adds about 26 grains. The 2219s like 14 gpi the 2216 is only a tad over 12gpi i a 17 in.bolt its about 34 grains lighter in the shaft on a 2216
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I've decided to go back to aluminum after my carbons are gone. The carbons I have are okay but the spine and weights are not uniform from batch-to-batch. As such I've had to separate them into 3 different groups. Unless Easton has changed, Ive found that for the most part they are uniform in weight and spine from batch-to-batch and CHEAPER. I hunt mostly from the ground and usually lose my arrows anyway.
I'm pretty sure that 3Rivers archery sells heavy inserts for 2216 and 2219 shaft so it should be easy to get my foc up and still use a 100gr broadhead.
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I've been shooting 2215s & 2216s for years. Insert in both ends, blazer vanes, 100gr point, and you don't want to shoot 2 at the same target unless you are ready to destroy one.

I've never bought in to all the hype about high FOC being necessary for great accuracy. (I think high FOC helps counter manufacturing imperfections found in carbon shafts.)

And the low FOC aluminums will shoot just as accurately with good broadheads! :wink:
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Used 2216 in my Exomax and now using them in my 380 Matrix with great results in both. I build my own arrows using a Easton 2216 plastic flat nock with three 2 inch Blazer vanes at the rear of course which gives me a lighter rear end for the arrow and an aluminum 2216 insert at the front. For me no need for inserts with this setup. Complete arrow (19 inch) with 100gr point/broadhead equals 388 gr. excellent accuracy, speed (378fps) and penetration.I have no desire to go to carbons after my experience using the 2216's.
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Aluminum arrows are great. Don't have to spine index them. It's sad to spend more on carbons and have some flyers. Even with the tighter tolerance one's. .001. Sure you can spend time on them to get them right, but some people don't know how or have the time to. I do use both though. And do play around with adding some weight on my aluminums for foc. XX75 and your golden. Until a bend. But I do have a arrow straightener for that. Can't do a thing with a carbon fracture. It's the unseen one's that will get ya. If I had to choose, it would be aluminum for hunting, carbon for the durability of repeated target shooting.
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A generous hunting buddy gave me about a dozen and a half 2314, 2315, 2413 and 2216 xx75 Easton arrows today to be converted to Crossbow bolts (18"). Pls help me understand what the product numbers mean, as they all appear to be the same
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When looking at aluminum shafts, there is a 4-digit number that identifies each shaft. Take a 2216 for example, the outer diameter is 22/64" and the wall thickness is .016".
A 2219 is 22/64" and .019".
A 2315 is 23/64" OD and .015" thick.
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Thanks Norm. The light goes ON. I guess that also means the gpi goes up as the wall diameter goes up? I am so thankful for all of the people on this forum who are tolerant of us less educated bow hunters and are so willing to share your knowledge and ideas with all forum readers and participants.
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At archery club I used cedar arrows in my fred bear kodiack but a LOT used easton alum xx78 arrows in 2215.....They shot just unreal and I bought set to try with my ben pearson bow...Stay with xx78 over xx75..
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farm3rbrian wrote:A generous hunting buddy gave me about a dozen and a half 2314, 2315, 2413 and 2216 xx75 Easton arrows today to be converted to Crossbow bolts (18"). Pls help me understand what the product numbers mean, as they all appear to be the same
I be leave that when making bolts the proper outside shaft diamiter is 22 for proper placement of string on the back of the nock.
I am not sure if the 23 shafts will fit the rail , string , latches properly you may be setting yourself up for a partial dry fire I would look into this more.
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I use the Easton 2219's with a 150 grain Bolt Cutter Broadhead.Once I sight in with this arrow and broadhead,I cannot target shoot with carbon arrows.My poi is off and I would have to resight my scope. My only alternative is to sight in using carbon arrows for target shooting then resight using the 2219 arrows just before hunting season.
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I'm not convinced that 1/64th of an inch would affect the alignment with the string etc. to cause a dry fire. Would need someone who has actually experienced this to convince me of that. Thanks for the input though
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