Arhg! Striving for perfection...
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Arhg! Striving for perfection...
I've compiled the Black Eagle components and began assembling some fresh 16" Zombie Slayers for the upcoming season. I'm using 2" Blazers, an 80 grain brass insert, a reflective strip, and Lumenocks. The total weight with a 100gr tip is about 378 grains.
To avoid the expense of a handful of Lumenocks and to allow myself to practice at that same weight, I added 1/2" long #10-32 stainless set screws inside the plastic nocks. I can't recall who posted the suggestion, but it is a perfect solution. I noticed my lumenocks all weigh 27.8 grains. The set screw can screw tightly into the nock so no glue is needed. The combo of the 1/2" set screw and plastic nock is 28.5 grains (.7 grains more), but a file and about 30 seconds make them an exact match in weight to the lumenock.
I ended up with a half dozen that weight exactly 277.7 without tips. I opened a new pack of Trophy Ridge 100gr field tips and weighed them. Come on! They range from 97.2 up to 102.8 grains. Now how is a person with OCD supposed to live like this.
So, I broke open the new packs of G5 Strykers to see what weight I needed to match. The first and second were identically 101.6 grains. The 3rd was 100.7. Here we go again!
In the end I have a half dozen arrows that are within a grain of each other and three that are identical. I hope I'm not the only one here that weighs every component and puts them in a spreadsheet to match the ones that will result in equal weight arrows. Its going to be a long summer.
DuckHunt
To avoid the expense of a handful of Lumenocks and to allow myself to practice at that same weight, I added 1/2" long #10-32 stainless set screws inside the plastic nocks. I can't recall who posted the suggestion, but it is a perfect solution. I noticed my lumenocks all weigh 27.8 grains. The set screw can screw tightly into the nock so no glue is needed. The combo of the 1/2" set screw and plastic nock is 28.5 grains (.7 grains more), but a file and about 30 seconds make them an exact match in weight to the lumenock.
I ended up with a half dozen that weight exactly 277.7 without tips. I opened a new pack of Trophy Ridge 100gr field tips and weighed them. Come on! They range from 97.2 up to 102.8 grains. Now how is a person with OCD supposed to live like this.
So, I broke open the new packs of G5 Strykers to see what weight I needed to match. The first and second were identically 101.6 grains. The 3rd was 100.7. Here we go again!
In the end I have a half dozen arrows that are within a grain of each other and three that are identical. I hope I'm not the only one here that weighs every component and puts them in a spreadsheet to match the ones that will result in equal weight arrows. Its going to be a long summer.
DuckHunt
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
You're not.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
How else is one supposed to do you do it?
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
Your attention to detail will pay off when looking at your tight groups on paper or success in the field. Detailing or match weighing arrow components DOES make a noticeable difference and is worth the extra amount of time the way I see it. A good grain scale and a bit of ingenuity is all that is needed.
I like the idea of adding a 1/2" set screw inside the BE rear insert to match the Lumenok weight overall weight and I have been doing the same since I switched to BE arrows years back.
I like the idea of adding a 1/2" set screw inside the BE rear insert to match the Lumenok weight overall weight and I have been doing the same since I switched to BE arrows years back.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
I like to call it "CDO" and not "OCD", because "CDO" is alphabetical...
You are not alone. IMO that's the only way to build arrows.
You are not alone. IMO that's the only way to build arrows.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
I find its very easy to be ocd with this stuff. Sometimes you just gotta ease up a little.It can go as far as worrying about the temp outside affects your bow n braceheight what pi.....ses me off the most is when a guy at work gets a giant buck using 2 different kinds of walmart arrows n heads with a crossbow he hardly ever shoots. Lol
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Zombie slayers and mostly swat broadheads.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
I thought everybody did this when building arrows. I have 19 arrows that weigh 288.4 gr & 5 arrows that weight 288.7 gr. I use .3 grain nylon washers behind the field points on the 288.4 gr arrows to get them to weigh a total of 388.7 grains. My wife says that I need to get professional help and she may be right, so the next time I may call Jerry at South Shore and have him do it for me. All that weighing and matching each component did give me a terrible headache.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
I just shoot Diablo stock arrows and Boltcutter broad heads , I have no idea what they weigh. A had a couple shoot 2 inches off consistently and I scrapped them. But that was out of about 20 arrows.
Still can't shoot at the same spot twice without ruining an arrow.
Never knew what all the fuss was about.
I'm good to 40 yards that's all I would dare to shoot a deer at anyway.
Guess I not a fanatic about it, but I love reading all the different configurations you people come up with.
Happy shooting to all of you.
And be safe.
Still can't shoot at the same spot twice without ruining an arrow.
Never knew what all the fuss was about.
I'm good to 40 yards that's all I would dare to shoot a deer at anyway.
Guess I not a fanatic about it, but I love reading all the different configurations you people come up with.
Happy shooting to all of you.
And be safe.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
Duck Hunt...I share your affliction. It seems easy to match weights with field points, thread on some BHs and all bets are off! I like the lumenock trick too. When I had some that were 1/10s of a grain off, I'd add rubber dental bands to the inside of the nock, then thread in the set screw. I find weight matching tedious, but satisfying when your 4 practice arrows and 4 hunting arrows are identical to the 1/10th of a grain. Is it necessary? Probably not, but it breeds confidence in your setup.
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
Nothing wrong with OCD when it comes to arrow making.
If you weren't like that when building them, you would get bored! I call it Fun!!!
Big John
If you weren't like that when building them, you would get bored! I call it Fun!!!
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
before I begin to make up arrows I clean the inside first . the shafts are full of dust and stuff . then I weigh them . next comes indexing . and also check the run out . seems like a lot to do but I think it is all worth it .
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Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
Wow ... in my longbow days id throw away 7 cedar arras out of a dozen lookin for perfectoin n these were "premium" shafting !
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Trigger tecs,leupold crossbones and nikon bolts.
Zombie slayers and mostly swat broadheads.
Trigger tecs,leupold crossbones and nikon bolts.
Zombie slayers and mostly swat broadheads.
Re: Arhg! Striving for perfection...
Yes sir nothing wrong with it. A file and few other tools are in my arrow building kit.
A little time spent weight matching is just part of the fun for me.
A little time spent weight matching is just part of the fun for me.
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