First was a broadside shot at about 15 yards,went about 50 yards. Last night I had a 6 point come by and start feeding,after a few mins. he started back into the woods,he disapeared into the pines and I heard horns clashing.He halled a$$ the other direction and the nice 8 came into view.He worked a scrape to my right and started to move on. I had no cleared shooting lanes on that side but found one small hole and took the shot, slight quarter away. Hit behind the shoulder and out the chest.Went 20 feet and went down in sight.I was shooting the gold tips and bosses that came with the excalibur kit.I am very impressed with all the excal equipment.