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[paulaboutform]

I know many don't visit the other topics section of the forum but Ironnoggin has posted up some info on gun control in Canada that I believe most of us will want to be aware of. Please visit and share. Thanks.

Paul

[Boo]

Paul, because this will effect us hunters, I don't see an issue with posting the info here.
It's a quick survey buy the Feds. Read carefully.

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cnslttns/hndgn/index-en.aspx

[nchunterkw]

Wow....you guys need to fight this tooth and nail. Not sure if there is a "Canadian NRA" but you will need that level of help, I'm afraid to keep this from happening. Post links to studies that show that gun bans do not reduce violent crime. FBI has done several studies...Also links to % of crimes committed with "assault" rifles. It is extremely low.

[Timbrhuntr]

Well surprise surprise ! Everybody said Harper was terrible and we needed a new Liberal gov. Even guys on hunting boards said hey the libs won't go after firearms again LOL
And this Blair idiot what do you think his position was on firearms especially handguns when he was the chief of the Metropolitan Police in Toronto and the policy of the Ontario Chiefs of Police Association. Let me think oh ya they should all be banned! Now that moron is in charge of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada ! Guess we are getting what we wanted !
Actually I guess its called Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction now thats even richer !
Wonder if he consulted the US when him and his buddy Fantino were getting in on the ground floor of the maryjane train !!

[Timbrhuntr]

So after you fill out that survey and tell them you own a handgun or firearm I wonder how long after they will be knocking on your door !!

[Boo]

So after you fill out that survey and tell them you own a handgun or firearm I wonder how long after they will be knocking on your door !!

Each and every handgun is registered with our federal government. All handguns and other restricted guns (ARs, Aug, M1 etc) are registered to the owner. There's quite a background check before you get to own a restricted firearm. The even ask your wife and neighbours if they think there's any reason that you shouldn't own one. One reasonable no and you're out.

[Timbrhuntr]

So after you fill out that survey and tell them you own a handgun or firearm I wonder how long after they will be knocking on your door !!

Each and every handgun is registered with our federal government.

After the gun registry I wouldn't bet on that LOL

But that wasn't my point !

On a side happier note I took my 335 apart and followed some of the instructions on your web site and for the first time it is actually hitting where I aim lol so I think I shall go sit in a tree tonight finally and maybe get some fresh tenders !

[IronNoggin]

The most disturbing thing is the way they are actually conducting this.
The issue has been brought forth in the House, yet Perre's Idiot Child refuses to even answer for it...

Serious flaws in Ottawa's handgun ban consultations

The Trudeau government said they would consult far and wide on banning handguns, they just didn’t specify that it would be world-wide.

Last week the Trudeau Liberals, under Minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction Bill Blair, launched an online consultation.

Remarkably, given that it is 2018, the online consultation has a number of serious flaws.

Firstly, there is no limit on how many times any individual can fill out the online survey.

Secondly, it isn’t restricted to Canada.

“An honest and serious public consultation survey on the opinions of Canadians shouldn’t be open to anyone from any country,” said Tracey Wilson.

Wilson is VP of public relations for the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights, a lobby group for gun owners.

“The simplest on polls use technology that prohibits people from doing them over and over. I wonder why Public Safety wouldn’t implement such a simple standard,” Wilson said.

It’s a valid point.

It wouldn’t be hard to fix this but maybe the government doesn’t want to. Tech experts say stopping people from repeatedly filling out the survey or filling it out from outside the country would not be hard.

“Absolutely not,” said one tech expert when asked if it would be difficult to stop the average person from filling out the form over and over again.

The tech, who gets contracts in Ottawa and doesn’t want to be identified, says stopping people from outside the country is also an easy fix.

“Netflix has those kinds of controls. They stop you from watching American programming and make you watch an Anne of Green Gables reboot,” he said.

Meanwhile, Trudeau’s government says they are consulting Canadians.

Truth is, we don’t know who they are consulting.

“We’ve got reports from people all around the world filling in the survey,” Wilson told me.

“Sri Lanka, Cuba, the US, Mexico, Germany. Why is the government of Canada allowing outside opinions to influence legislative considerations?”

It’s a good question and one that the government could not answer.

Several emails and calls to the office of Minister Bill Blair saw questions go unanswered in why the government was wide open, as in world wide open, in terms of seeking input.

Perhaps the answer is found in the statement Blair put out when he announced the consultation last week.

“I am committed to examining all options and hearing all perspectives on this issue,” Blair said.

We just didn’t know it meant the views of people in the United States, Cuba or Sri Lanka.

Or maybe we will be the victim of a Russian hack, it is easy enough to do on the Public Safety website where basic security is apparently optional for a survey.

The Trudeau government said they would study the possibility of a ban on handguns and so-called “assault weapons” but the fix is already in.

The questions are loaded in the survey, the technology is weak.

One of the questions asks, “Should more be done to limit access to assault weapons?”

There is no accepted definition of assault weapon. If I pick up a chair and beat you over the head with it that is technically an assault weapon.

But the Trudeau Liberals point to an old American definition from the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

They say in the survey, “in general, assault weapons are semi-automatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire.”

Or …… firearms already illegal in Canada.

You already can’t legally own a large capacity magazine for most rifles.

Why bother telling the public that when you can scare them.

We have a problem with criminals and gangs using guns in turf and drug wars in Canada but police and politicians don’t know how to deal with that.

So politicians are dealing with what they can control, law-abiding gun owners.

There are more than 900,000 handguns registered in Canada — yes handguns are still registered. The owners of those guns are not the source of the criminal problem in this country.

Yet because Justin Trudeau know he can beat them up for political gain and win votes in the next election, they will be the focus on the crackdown on guns.

The gangbangers shooting up your neighbourhood, that can be someone else’s problem.

https://torontosun.com/news/crime/lilley-serious-flaws-in-ottawas-handgun-ban-consultations

[newbie]

I filled this out last week and forwarded it to many. thanks for posting it here guys.
i am still having posting issues. i get kicked out pleasenlogin again over and over.
i just give up now.

[newbie]

Thanks for posting this here guys.
I saw this on another forum last week and forwarded everywhere. Tried tonpost here but I still have issues posting here. loging then type my post.....Then login again. I have given up trying anymore.

[janesy]

Thanks for posting this here guys.
I saw this on another forum last week and forwarded everywhere. Tried tonpost here but I still have issues posting here. loging then type my post.....Then login again. I have given up trying anymore.

I had the same issue trying to send a PM from a PC yesterday.
Down on the right hand side of the screen, click "clear board cookies" and it stopped doing it.

[newbie]

Tried it all. Just like now.
Login this is the thirs time i typed this.
I am giving up no more posting

[Timbrhuntr]

I don't post much anyway but am having the same problem so annoying I feel the same ready to give up bothering to post then repost augh !!

second log for this one post !!!

[mr meat]

If you guys are having problems send Doe Master a PM and he can pass the info on!

[taz3]

Thanks for posting this here guys.
I saw this on another forum last week and forwarded everywhere. Tried tonpost here but I still have issues posting here. loging then type my post.....Then login again. I have given up trying anymore.

I had the same issue trying to send a PM from a PC yesterday.
Down on the right hand side of the screen, click "clear board cookies" and it stopped doing it.

Nope didn't work, I've given up too.