$12,000 Deer Hunting Mistake...

Woody Williams · Post by **Woody Williams** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:14 pm

Not sure where you get the "illegal to sell". Maybe in your province?

It is done all the time on eBay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 20786&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

Kdog · Post by **Kdog** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:51 pm

"After further investigation, I have found that this is a High Fenced Operation. Please keep this in mind prior to reading and forive my ill knowledge. I am eating crow."

Please understand that this post is not intended to offend anyone.

I have to ask why this type of hunting makes one sick? The animal was taken on a free ranging ranch as far as I know. I looked at their site and found no mention of "High Fences". I am not sure why this would not be considered "Fair Chase" either, unless the deer was taken in a fence. I live in GA, and we do not allow baiting. If you go to the Boone & Crockett site www.huntfairchase.com , they do not condone hunting over bait either, but many of you here do. I do not have any problems with my fellow hunters that abide by all game laws and leagally harvest game over bait, I am just not one of the ones that do it, and never will. Do I consider any of you to be less of a hunter for hunting over bait? No. And I do not think any of you should think any less of this hunter for having deep pockets to take his game. Is he a dedicated hunter? How do we know? I don't remember anyone saying anything bad when Bill went on his African Safari.

Just something to think about. There are many different ways to legally harvest game animals. Just because it is not the way you do it, does not mean that it is the wrong way if it was done legally. We hunters need to stick together since each other is all we have to keep this great heratige alive.

If anything I stated is incorrect, please forgive me. I searched the site on Perlitzranch.com

Kdog

PS TOW, if you have a link to the article behind the video, I would like to see it.[/b]

Woody Williams · Post by **Woody Williams** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:56 pm

Kdog said - "PS TOW, if you have a link to the article behind the video, I would like to see it."

All I know about is the video..

I don't think a lot of the Texas ranches do advertise it is high fenced.
I also think that most that are free range say so.

I don't begrudge anyone for paying to hunt any animal. In this case he just bit off more than he could chew.

Kdog · Post by **Kdog** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:17 pm

Thanks Woody, forgot where I was at.

Kdog

Woody Williams · Post by **Woody Williams** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:19 pm

Kdog wrote:Thanks Woody, forgot where I was at.

Kdog

Not a problem...

There is another Woody on here too..

I've always said," I don't care what you call me as long as you call me for supper."

TAC · Post by **TAC** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:59 pm

Awesome song!

[quote="Anonymous"]Dedicated to all damn CHECKBOOK hunters!!
_____________________________________________________________

Well, listen everybody,
to what I got to say.
There's hope for tomorrow,
Ooh,we're workin'on today.
Well,it happened long time ago,
in the new magic land.
The Indian and the buffalo,
they existed hand in hand....

quote]

guest · Post by **guest** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:48 pm

Carl from Vermont wrote:That sort of hunting makes me sick to my stomach. Bad for the tradition and the core meaning of hunting.

Your just full of that holier then thou attitude. What makes your method of hunting any better then anyone elses?????

Who are you to judge others. Division like this in our sport is the reason the antis win all the time!!!

Woodsman · Post by **Woodsman** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:48 pm

Here are some of the trophies of this ranch:

http://www.perlitzranch.com/html/trophy.htm

brayhaven · Post by **brayhaven** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:55 am

bstout wrote:To me there is a large difference between someone who "Hunts" deer and someone who "shoots" deer. Fair chase has a lot to do with the integrity of a hunter in my opinion. Out foxing the animal on their own turf (hunting) is different than sliding open your spam window and (shooting) a deer. I don't believe public or private land has much meaning. .

Just to "stir the pot"

) What about deer shot over bait (corn etc) which is legal in many states? Or food plots which is, I think, legal in most? These are usually just "shooting" (rather than hunting) from a semi permanent, comfortable, platform seat, where the "hunter" just sits there waiting for dinner time and knocks over the deer as he comes for his regular meal....

Greg

Sandman · Post by **Sandman** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:01 am

Woodsman wrote:Here are some of the trophies of this ranch:

http://www.perlitzranch.com/html/trophy.htm

68 X $12,000.00 = $816,000.00

I guess hunting is big business!

Deadeye · Post by **Deadeye** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:31 pm

this kinda crap makes me sick!

First of all drinkin,driving, and rifles don't mix, secondly 12,000 for an animal is ridiculous and the fact that people on this planet are selling the oppurtunity to harvest an animal of this quality at that price de-values hunting in general. The fact that someone pays the money for this experence feeds the perverted minds that set up and sell this kind of so called "hunting" to a unqualified hunter.

I think this crap gives all the anti's the ammo they need...

We real hunters don't need this kinna publicity at all...If you pay to shoot, then so what if it's a huge buck, then a ticket and a license is enough. When I buy a license it's to fill a tag...Why set a price on a large mature animal verses another? 12,000 that's dumb!
That's my opinion on this not worth the footage it's on!

I'm not getting on the poster of this video (Woody) , he's a long time friend of the forum, and I appreciate his wisdom in all he has represented on this forum at all times, but we as forum member's should recognize the fact that our great sport of hunting is being de-valued by wanna be hunters like these in this video drinkin w/weapons and paying huge profits to deer ranchers that have no human dignity to the spirit of the animal and the purpose of the kill....

Deadeye

CaptainCharles · Post by **CaptainCharles** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:41 pm

Just to "stir the pot"

) What about deer shot over bait (corn etc) which is legal in many states? Or food plots which is, I think, legal in most? These are usually just "shooting" (rather than hunting) from a semi permanent, comfortable, platform seat, where the "hunter" just sits there waiting for dinner time and knocks over the deer as he comes for his regular meal....

Greg[/quote]

If it is that easy why haven't I scored on a monster yet? Corn is God's bait, and when it runs out, I replenish it, but the deer are wild animals, and may or may not come to the corn. By me placing corn out at the farm is no different than finding a deer's natural food source and hanging a tree stand there.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:46 pm

I hear you Deadeye.
The meaning of hunting/harvesting (putting meat away for the cold winter and making use of the hides) is being perverted by hunters obsessed with shooting big racks, just for the purpose of having bragging rights.

I would'nt pay a nickle to shoot one of those 100# flea bitten big antlered bucks in TX. I've taken doe here that would make those little bodied bucks look silly, regarding putting meat away.

I'll bet there are some here that would just love to go shoot a $12k little big buck, take the antlers home to brag over, and leave the meat.

brayhaven · Post by **brayhaven** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:40 am

CaptainCharles wrote:Just to "stir the pot" ) What about deer shot over bait (corn etc) which is legal in many states? Or food plots which is, I think, legal in most? These are usually just "shooting" (rather than hunting) from a semi permanent, comfortable, platform seat, where the "hunter" just sits there waiting for dinner time and knocks over the deer as he comes for his regular meal....
Greg

If it is that easy why haven't I scored on a monster yet? Corn is God's bait, and when it runs out, I replenish it, but the deer are wild animals, and may or may not come to the corn. By me placing corn out at the farm is no different than finding a deer's natural food source and hanging a tree stand there.[/quote]

"God's bait"

)? Acorns are "God's bait <g> & about every Oak tree has em when they are in. You might have a point in areas where corn (wheat beans etc) is grown but in others, it a huge draw for deer. I'm a gunsmith for a large sporting goods store in a nearby town. Last year they invited me to their family hunting farm outside of town. I knew it would be pretty easy shooting so I took the flintlock. They put me in a covered shooting house on stilts in front of a large food plot (wheat, corn, chufas etc) with a corn broadcast feeder. There was a padded rifle rest, upholstered bench etc. About 30 minutes later, the Turkeys came, about 150 of them, then the deer; in groups of 4-10 including some nice bucks (for Florida). I pulled down on several and even set the trigger on a couple, but never could bring myself to shoot one. It just wouldn't taste right. I thought to myself, I'd rather shoot a buzzard off a powerline".

I now refer (to the owners) to that hunting spot as their "Stevie Wonder hunting spot". Because, even Stevie Wonder could kill a deer there.

Greg

brayhaven · Post by **brayhaven** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:57 am

Carl from Vermont wrote:I hear you Deadeye.
The meaning of hunting/harvesting (putting meat away for the cold winter and making use of the hides) is being perverted by hunters obsessed with shooting big racks, just for the purpose of having bragging rights.

.

I quit hunting racks many years ago and pass on big bucks these days. They don't taste as good to me & I've killed all the "trophies" I will ever need. Now I hunt for the enjoyment & the challenge of the experience. This is different for each hunter IMO.
Hunting is a very personal sport. Different people do it differently, for different reasons and derive satifaction in their own way.
When I look back at the most memorable (valuable) hunting experiences, they almost never include kills, and even then, they aren't necessarily the big deer that stand out as the most memorable. They are the ones that were the most challenging and the ones that I worked for, that come to mind. But many are also the ones I "counted coup" on

and didn't shoot as they walked past or I slipped in on as they fed and smiled at them or spoke to them and watched the surprise as they wheeled & ran off. Now I hunt for the enjoyment of the outdoors and the "chase" & shoot deer for meat. I hunt public land. I prefer, a spike or a young doe. But, that said, I respect those who look for "wall hangers" and their right to hunt their way for their reasons (within reason <g>).
Greg

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