Will the Phoenix limbs fit on my Vixen's riser...or does it have a whole new riser?
Vixen power stroke = 14"
Phoenix power stroke = 14"
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New old Exocet
Yep,
I just got my new old Exocet last month. I can not help but feel a little bit disappointed, but I should not be because it really is a great bow and it is up to the task of taking any whitetail in my neck of the woods.
Riggs
I just got my new old Exocet last month. I can not help but feel a little bit disappointed, but I should not be because it really is a great bow and it is up to the task of taking any whitetail in my neck of the woods.
Riggs
Re: New old Exocet
yep i knew itrigbymi wrote:Yep,
I just got my new old Exocet last month. I can not help but feel a little bit disappointed, but I should not be because it really is a great bow and it is up to the task of taking any whitetail in my neck of the woods.
Riggs
.Is there a trade off?
It sounds like the phoenix will be a good bow for sure!
Compared to the Vixen. The angled riser on the Phoenix will be slightly lighter. than the straight riser on the Vixen. And it will also have a slightly more narrow limb spread when uncocked than the Vixen will!
At the same time you will have more speed than the Vixen, with the same power stroke as the Vixen!
Supposedly the Vixen will only be available in plain buck brown!
So when you go to a 3d shoot with a Phoenix you use a heavier bolt, big deal, guys already do that with the Exocet!
Question is, who the heck would bother to buy a Vixen?
Also to the guys who really rely on accuracy!
Would a competitor use one of these at the world's?
What is truly effected by the use of an angled riser?
BTW this upgrade idea is a good one!
The option would be to purchase the angled riser and limbs, as a package!
The only thing is that you would only be increasing your fps by the equivalent of the next bow in the line up as we now know it! i.e if you now own a Vixen and put the upgrade package on, you will have the equivalent of an Exocet. This is fine because the upgrade package will likely be cheaper than a whole new bow.
To me the ideal upgrade would be the option to purchase a different length rail! This would allow you to jump from a Vixen to an Emag!
Or if you buy the Phoenix with the upgraded rail you could go to the Exomax!
Basically it's a parts mix and match, there could be a ton of options!
FYI many of these reflections are the result of a lengthy conversation with an expert in this field! I just thought I would pass them on!
Compared to the Vixen. The angled riser on the Phoenix will be slightly lighter. than the straight riser on the Vixen. And it will also have a slightly more narrow limb spread when uncocked than the Vixen will!
At the same time you will have more speed than the Vixen, with the same power stroke as the Vixen!
Supposedly the Vixen will only be available in plain buck brown!
So when you go to a 3d shoot with a Phoenix you use a heavier bolt, big deal, guys already do that with the Exocet!
Question is, who the heck would bother to buy a Vixen?
Also to the guys who really rely on accuracy!
Would a competitor use one of these at the world's?
What is truly effected by the use of an angled riser?
BTW this upgrade idea is a good one!
The option would be to purchase the angled riser and limbs, as a package!
The only thing is that you would only be increasing your fps by the equivalent of the next bow in the line up as we now know it! i.e if you now own a Vixen and put the upgrade package on, you will have the equivalent of an Exocet. This is fine because the upgrade package will likely be cheaper than a whole new bow.
To me the ideal upgrade would be the option to purchase a different length rail! This would allow you to jump from a Vixen to an Emag!
Or if you buy the Phoenix with the upgraded rail you could go to the Exomax!
Basically it's a parts mix and match, there could be a ton of options!
FYI many of these reflections are the result of a lengthy conversation with an expert in this field! I just thought I would pass them on!
Enjoy the Harvest!
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MiB
I sure would go for the upgrade! I see less of it hurting sales though. Most would sell their old crossbow to get the new one. So it still means someone isn't buying a new one... unless you are like GaryL and collect them like bottle caps! 
As for myself, I won't take a hit on selling my Exomag and replacing it with a new Exomax, but I would certainly consider buying a max upgrade. Makes a nice affordable gift for an existing Excalibur owner!
As for myself, I won't take a hit on selling my Exomag and replacing it with a new Exomax, but I would certainly consider buying a max upgrade. Makes a nice affordable gift for an existing Excalibur owner!
Pete
The great outdoors is where I want to be.
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Funny but I was a thinking along them lines back awhile ago
Quote in part.."bj wrote:
-.....................what about the emag...it's already done in the form of the exomax...(bye bye exomag )...with these new breeds of bows, i now think it's time that the new riser and limb assembly was offered as an upgrade...what do you think ????..wayne... "
http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/phpBB2 ... ght=#56517
Quote in part.."bj wrote:
-.....................what about the emag...it's already done in the form of the exomax...(bye bye exomag )...with these new breeds of bows, i now think it's time that the new riser and limb assembly was offered as an upgrade...what do you think ????..wayne... "
http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/phpBB2 ... ght=#56517
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brayhaven
Well it is simply a marketing ploy to increase sales by deliberately creating a perception of obsolescence. Your older models aren't obsolete in the way your old computer won't get the job done any more. Bowhunters are, in general, a very gullible lot, who will spend lots of money on the gadgets & latest equipment to get a few more FPS, when the stuff they had was totally adequate. These new bows are interesting but, I'm quite happy with the exocet I have. I hunt gun season with a flintlock. I also ride a mule and run antique wood boats & motors. Maybe I'm the living "Anti-Tech"bj wrote:i agree to a point with you gary, but if i bought a new exocet (maybe within the last month), and all of sudden my one month old bow is slightly obsolete, i think that the ability to upgrade it asap, would be a smart business thing to do...this makes more sense now, that most of the lineup will move to the "new riser"...
wayne...
). Greg
What GaryL really needs is a nice custom painted stock for one of his harpoon launchers
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